From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28691: [PATCH] Add file name handler support for 'make-process' (Bug#28691) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 17:45:20 +0200 Message-ID: <83y38g8cxb.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8336qwdixp.fsf@gnu.org> <20181217204746.53492-1-phst@google.com> <831s6aaq06.fsf@gnu.org> <87woo1j4az.fsf@gmx.de> <87muowzo3j.fsf@gmx.de> <87lg4g5yj5.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1545579848 7879 195.159.176.226 (23 Dec 2018 15:44:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 15:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: phst@google.com, 28691@debbugs.gnu.org, p.stephani2@gmail.com To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 23 16:44:04 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gb5v9-0001xs-Fq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 16:44:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46414 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gb5xG-00034e-6z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 10:46:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35908) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gb5x9-00034U-R5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 10:46:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gb5x6-0002ch-1v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 10:46:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57889) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gb5x4-0002aO-Og for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 10:46:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gb5x4-0003tt-Iz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 10:46:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 15:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28691 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 28691-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28691.154557994214963 (code B ref 28691); Sun, 23 Dec 2018 15:46:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 28691) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2018 15:45:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33914 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gb5wj-0003tH-TN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 10:45:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38149) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gb5wi-0003t2-FG for 28691@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 10:45:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gb5wZ-0001aG-Go for 28691@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 10:45:35 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55440) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gb5wZ-0001Zf-CM; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 10:45:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1457 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gb5wY-0002us-W5; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 10:45:31 -0500 In-reply-to: <87lg4g5yj5.fsf@gmx.de> (message from Michael Albinus on Sun, 23 Dec 2018 11:26:54 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:153789 Archived-At: > From: Michael Albinus > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Philipp Stephani , 28691@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 11:26:54 +0100 > > >> Tramp does *handle* all operations. But it does not *support* all of > >> them. In case it is not possible to offer an implementation for > >> `start-file-process' (as example), Tramp uses `ignore' as implementation. > > > > Yes, I've seen this, but it's a characteristic of Tramp, not of Emacs > > itself, so I don't think it should be documented in the Elisp manual > > itself. > > Tramp (and partly ange-ftp) are the only file name handlers which offer > process-related implementations. So it isn't wrong to document this, I > believe. > > Since we disgree here, let Eli decide. Can we say that a file handler _might_ decide not to support a certain operation, and describe what will happen in that case, without mentioning Tramp?