From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36717: 25.3; greek.el: deprecated vowel+oxia combinations should be replaced with vowel+tonos counterparts Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 18:00:55 +0300 Message-ID: <83y30ut6fs.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20190718184700.GA4886@robertalessi.net> <20190718203203.GG4886@robertalessi.net> <83tvbiv7dp.fsf@gnu.org> <83h87iur38.fsf@gnu.org> <837e8eumks.fsf@gnu.org> <20190719145200.GD11910@robertalessi.net> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="12484"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 36717@debbugs.gnu.org To: Robert Alessi Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 19 17:04:12 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hoUQd-00031c-JH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 17:04:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46132 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoUQc-0001M8-HV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:04:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56649) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoUQZ-0001K9-GA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:04:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hoUQB-00087O-65 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:03:49 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47615) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hoUPV-0007fB-V7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:03:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoUPV-0005KJ-Pt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:03:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36717 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 36717-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36717.156354852820389 (code B ref 36717); Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:03:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36717) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2019 15:02:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56436 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoUOd-0005In-LQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:02:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44045) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoUOc-0005Ia-VX for 36717@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:02:07 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60235) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hoUNx-0006KG-F1; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:01:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2055 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hoUNY-0000y9-C9; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:01:07 -0400 In-reply-to: <20190719145200.GD11910@robertalessi.net> (message from Robert Alessi on Fri, 19 Jul 2019 16:52:00 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:163425 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 16:52:00 +0200 > From: Robert Alessi > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 36717@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 04:41:07PM +0200, Robert Pluim wrote: > > Eli> I don't see why this would be a problem. We should provide the > > Eli> variant expected by modern Greek in the input methods which target > > Eli> modern Greek, and the variants for Classic Greek in input methods > > Eli> which target that. Bonus points for providing at least some of the > > Eli> other variants in each type of the input methods. > > > > That would be convenient, but should perhaps be a new, separate, input > > method. > > Hard to say. I am thinking of some of my Greek colleagues who produce > in modern Greek editions and/or commentaries on classic texts. I am > pretty sure that they use tonoi in every instance, but should they > wish to keep the distinction between tonos and oxeia, what would be > the more comfortable way to work with emacs? They could switch between input methods back and forth. Or we could add support for the other variants to existing methods, to let users use a single input method.