From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#30043: 25.3; C-M-e inserts euro character Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 18:52:25 +0300 Message-ID: <83y2y7drra.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k19r1bp1.fsf@fliptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="4704"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: tomasn@posteo.net, 30043@debbugs.gnu.org, ilya@math.berkeley.edu To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 29 17:54:03 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iEbWM-00010s-Fb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 17:54:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40446 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iEbWI-0000eV-Ke for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 11:53:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49795) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iEbVW-0000dx-L1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 11:53:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEbVQ-0002dy-9C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 11:53:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46786) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEbVQ-0002Vw-5B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 11:53:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEbVN-0004Po-VW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 11:53:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 15:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30043 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 30043-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30043.156977237216956 (code B ref 30043); Sun, 29 Sep 2019 15:53:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 30043) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2019 15:52:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55607 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEbVE-0004PP-6I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 11:52:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40694) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEbVA-0004PA-Iw for 30043@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 11:52:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51263) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEbUy-0007fb-Lx; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 11:52:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2157 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iEbUt-0006AE-7k; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 11:52:31 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Kangas on Sun, 29 Sep 2019 17:42:59 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:167707 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 17:42:59 +0200 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 30043@debbugs.gnu.org, > Ilya Zakharevich > > Thanks for writing back. It was not my intention to close a > legitimate bug; reopened it now. I've been investigating this a bit, > and it seems like this new keyboard handling code was introduced due > to deficiencies in the old one. See: > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=19994 > See also the possibly related: https://debbugs.gnu.org/bug=23251 Of course, we made that change to make keyboard input better on MS-Windows. And it _is_ better now than it was before. > If it's the case that this change breaks M-C-e on all Swedish > keyboards on MS-Windows I don't think this is the case. C-M-e does in Emacs exactly what it should do, it just doesn't do what it does in other applications, i.e. insert the Euro symbol. But why should C-M-e do that in Sweden, when it doesn't do that in other locales? It sounds like Emacs behaves consistently here. > At the very least, it makes sense to me that the doc string should > be improved as Tomas suggests, and possibly also that the workaround > should be documented in e.g. etc/PROBLEMS. I have nothing against mentioning this quirk in PROBLEMS, of course. Although I don't really agree this is a "problem". > Eli, what do you think? I've also Cc:ed Ilya Zakharevich in the hope > that he will be able to help. If Ilya can look into this and explain what's going on, it would be great, of course.