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posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="91116"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefan@marxist.se, michael.albinus@gmx.de, 37527@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 23 21:02:27 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iuigM-000NdS-VK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 21:02:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32844 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iuigM-0002GL-1O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:02:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46965) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iuhA6-00015y-So for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:25:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iuhA5-0002Uy-S9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; 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Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:25:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37858) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iuhA1-0007Xc-Dl for 37527@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:24:57 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35144) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iuh9v-0002AD-Fm; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:24:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4270 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iuh9u-0007of-C3; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:24:50 -0500 In-reply-to: <162efbd0-5d99-4074-4a4c-e186b0765f70@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Thu, 23 Jan 2020 09:42:10 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:175187 Archived-At: > Cc: stefan@marxist.se, michael.albinus@gmx.de, rgm@gnu.org, > 37527@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 09:42:10 -0800 > > On 1/23/20 6:23 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > if Emacs was installed with the > > sources, but the original source tree where it was built still exists, > > where will source-directory point after your changes? > > It'll point to the original source tree if you're running Emacs out of > the build directory. If you're running Emacs out of the installed > directory, it will point to the installed source tree. In that case, I will repeat my suggestion to have a separate variable for the installed sources, because otherwise we are making an incompatible behavior change. > > Let's consider builds > > that aren't meant to be reproducible. > > Although we can do that, generally speaking it's better when there's no > difference between reproducible and irreproducible builds, as that's one > less thing to worry about when maintaining and debugging. All the rest being equal, yes. But all the rest is not equal in this case, because your proposal changes a long-standing behavior in a very reasonable use case.