From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug#40248: 27.0.90; Failure open .authinfo.gpg from Gnus Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 20:59:01 +0300 Message-ID: <83y2rgz9qy.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86bloi1zrj.fsf@csic.es> <83lfnm8b30.fsf@gnu.org> <83ftdt9b1d.fsf@gnu.org> <86sght3h1s.fsf@csic.es> <834ku89anf.fsf@gnu.org> <87a740ub2r.fsf@gnus.org> <83tv287s9j.fsf@gnu.org> <874ku7txho.fsf@gnus.org> <83imin5l0w.fsf@gnu.org> <87blocrgtb.fsf@igel.home> <877dz0rf2v.fsf@igel.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="35100"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 31 19:59:24 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jJLAa-00092C-5S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 19:59:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42534 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jJLAZ-0006GU-8E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 13:59:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56284) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jJLA4-0005rj-Ca for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 13:58:53 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44156) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jJLA3-0007D2-GQ; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 13:58:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2935 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jJLA0-0005TZ-2m; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 13:58:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Robert Pluim on Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:13:10 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:246140 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Lars Ingebrigtsen , > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:13:10 +0200 > > Now that Iʼve actually tested it, the change looks like this, making > make-network-process and make-serial process behave the same as > make-process and make-pipe-process. Iʼve looked at all uses of those > two functions in Emacs' sources, and none of them depend on the change > in semantics, in fact only a couple of them actually pass a :coding > keyword. Nevertheless, we should call out this change in NEWS. > Having said all that, this does go back a looooong way (2002 at > least), so maybe we want to let sleeping dogs lie. I don't think this is a risky change. Programs that assume what we currently do rely on undefined behavior, IMO. Thanks.