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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: ndame <ndame@protonmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: High-res Customize icons
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:05:30 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y2ql9jhx.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eht27fiXYJ3N6qipUi2WE-2up3l7oE6aqbDmhK09g8UOgZBXeOwGrAEjrtaIqlpCAlxs-ujmVl9hvMSYpe8GpRkJifR1QBpcCL_M0YEzmVY=@protonmail.com> (message from ndame on Thu, 23 Apr 2020 07:14:48 +0000)

> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 07:14:48 +0000
> From: ndame <ndame@protonmail.com>
> 
> > It should be straightforward to take a free font family, strip all
> > other glyphs, and modify the remaining symbols to make them fit.
> 
> Actually, there is an emacs package already which collects fonts
> with free license to provide icons:
> 
> https://github.com/domtronn/all-the-icons.el
> 
> Check out the screenshot, e.g. the mode line at the bottom which looks quite nice:
> 
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/domtronn/all-the-icons.el/master/logo.png
> 
> It would be nice if emacs shipped with these fonts and actually used the icons at various
> places like on the screenshot.

Sorry, I cannot say I like this.  AFAIU, it uses Private Use Area
(PUA) codepoints to produce the icons with a specially-prepared font.
But the fonts it provides declare support for portions of Unicode
where they have glyphs for only one or a small number of characters.
So if this font is installed and available to the Emacs font-selection
routines, it will at best make the search for a font slower, and at
worst might cause some characters be displayed as boxes with hex
codes, although some other font on the system could have displayed
that character.

I'm especially alarmed to see advice like this:

  . If you don't see the font family in question in the list of
    fontspecs (i.e. [-*-file-icons-...]) below the range, or some
    other fontspecs in front of the one in question, you will have to
    add the families back to the fontset (scroll to the top to see
    which one is in effect), or arrange the fontspec order. For
    example:

     (set-fontset-font t 'unicode (font-spec :family "all-the-icons") nil 'append)

This in effect tells Emacs that the font in question covers the entire
Unicode code-space, which is definitely far from the truth.

From my POV, this has trouble written all over it.  We have enough
font-related issues reported on the bug tracker, and zero people who
know this area of Emacs well enough to respond to those bugs
efficiently.  Using tricks like the above will make a difficult
situation much more so, and for no good reason.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-04-24 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-23  7:14 High-res Customize icons ndame
2020-04-23  7:25 ` ndame
2020-04-23 10:06 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-23 14:07   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-23 14:11     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-23 14:39       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-23 14:46       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-04-23 15:00         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-23 15:44           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-23 19:14             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-23 20:33               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-24  6:51                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24 13:06                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-24 13:36                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24 15:13                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-24 15:46                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-23 15:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-23 15:17           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-04-23 16:40             ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-23 15:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-23 16:19         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-23 16:35           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-23 15:08     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-23 15:49       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-23 16:34         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-23 19:56           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-23 19:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-25  2:55           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-25  7:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-25 13:12               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-25 13:18                 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-24 12:05 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-04-24 15:11   ` ndame
2020-04-24 15:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24 16:07       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-24 16:29         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-25  3:38       ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-28 13:55         ` Robert Pluim
2020-04-28 14:38           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 12:30             ` Robert Pluim
2020-04-29 14:00               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-25  3:34   ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-25  6:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-04-21 19:47 Yuan Fu
2020-04-22  2:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22  2:37   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-22  5:47     ` chad
2020-04-22 12:24       ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-22 12:41         ` Yuri Khan
2020-04-22 13:54           ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-22 21:12             ` Juri Linkov
2020-04-22 22:20               ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-23  4:11               ` Werner LEMBERG
2020-04-23 14:52                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-23 15:07                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-23 17:49                   ` Werner LEMBERG
2020-04-23 19:27                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-23 19:35                       ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-23 19:40                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-23 19:59                           ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-23 23:02                             ` chad
2020-04-24  6:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24 11:00                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-23 23:23                       ` chad
2020-04-24  7:18                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-25  3:30                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-25  7:02                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-25 12:37                           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-25 13:56                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22 13:35       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22 17:09         ` chad
2020-04-22 17:36           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22 18:28             ` chad
2020-04-22 18:38               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22 19:19                 ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-22 19:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22 20:38                     ` Yuan Fu
2020-05-01 13:46                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-22 15:33                         ` Yuan Fu
2020-10-23 16:39                         ` Yuan Fu
2020-10-23 18:08                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-27 19:17                             ` Yuan Fu
2020-10-27 19:27                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-27 22:26                               ` Alan Third
2020-10-27 23:09                                 ` Yuan Fu
2020-10-28  0:05                                   ` Alan Third
2020-10-28  1:22                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2020-10-29  5:31                                 ` Yuan Fu

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