* bug#42388: 27.0.91; Manual is inconsistent about default init file location @ 2020-07-16 10:23 Jorge P. de Morais Neto 2020-07-16 17:00 ` Robert Pluim 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Jorge P. de Morais Neto @ 2020-07-16 10:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 42388 The manual at [[info:emacs#Find Init]] says: Emacs can also look in an XDG-compatible location for ‘init.el’, the default is the directory ‘~/.config/emacs’. This can be overriden by setting ‘XDG_CONFIG_HOME’ in your environment, its value replaces ‘~/.config’ in the name of the default XDG init file. However ‘~/.emacs.d’ and ‘~/.emacs’ are always preferred if they exist, which means that you must delete or rename them in order to use the XDG location. However, at [[info:emacs#Init File]] it says: When Emacs is started, it normally tries to load a Lisp program from an “initialization file”, or “init file” for short. This file, if it exists, specifies how to initialize Emacs for you. If the file ‘~/.config/emacs/init.el’ exists, it is used as the init file; otherwise Emacs may look at ‘~/.emacs.el’, ‘~/.emacs’, ‘~/.emacs.d/init.el’, or other locations. *Note Find Init::. So [[info:emacs#Find Init]] says that `~/.emacs.d' and `~/.emacs' are preferred, while [[info:emacs#Init File]] says that `~/.config/emacs/init.el' is preferred. Regards In GNU Emacs 27.0.91 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.5) of 2020-07-13 built on jorge--inspiron-5570 Repository revision: d24e56a5e4959f82b3da0dfac9ee3c428e077cbd Repository branch: emacs-27 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12004000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) Recent messages: Starting new Ispell process /home/jorge/.guix-profile/bin/enchant-2 with en_US dictionary...done Mark set Mark saved where search started Ispell process killed Starting new Ispell process /home/jorge/.guix-profile/bin/enchant-2 with pt_BR dictionary...done Saving file /home/jorge/private/org/registro-dia.txt... Wrote /home/jorge/private/org/registro-dia.txt dumb Configured using: 'configure --with-mailutils --with-modules --enable-link-time-optimization' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS GLIB NOTIFY INOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE HARFBUZZ M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 XDBE XIM MODULES THREADS LIBSYSTEMD JSON PDUMPER LCMS2 GMP Important settings: value of $LC_MONETARY: pt_BR.UTF-8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: pt_BR.UTF-8 value of $LC_TIME: pt_BR.UTF-8 value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Info Minor modes in effect: semantic-minor-modes-format: ((:eval (if (or semantic-highlight-edits-mode semantic-show-unmatched-syntax-mode) S))) global-edit-server-edit-mode: t csv-field-index-mode: t auto-correct-mode: t global-hl-line-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t winner-mode: t savehist-mode: t recentf-mode: t ido-everywhere: t global-tab-line-mode: t tab-line-mode: t auto-insert-mode: t 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* bug#42388: 27.0.91; Manual is inconsistent about default init file location 2020-07-16 10:23 bug#42388: 27.0.91; Manual is inconsistent about default init file location Jorge P. de Morais Neto @ 2020-07-16 17:00 ` Robert Pluim 2020-07-16 19:27 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Robert Pluim @ 2020-07-16 17:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jorge P. de Morais Neto; +Cc: 42388 >>>>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 07:23:36 -0300, "Jorge P. de Morais Neto" <jorge@disroot.org> said: Jorge> The manual at [[info:emacs#Find Init]] says: Jorge> Emacs can also look in an XDG-compatible location for ‘init.el’, Jorge> the default is the directory ‘~/.config/emacs’. This can be Jorge> overriden by setting ‘XDG_CONFIG_HOME’ in your environment, its Jorge> value replaces ‘~/.config’ in the name of the default XDG init file. Jorge> However ‘~/.emacs.d’ and ‘~/.emacs’ are always preferred if they Jorge> exist, which means that you must delete or rename them in order to Jorge> use the XDG location. Jorge> However, at [[info:emacs#Init File]] it says: Jorge> When Emacs is started, it normally tries to load a Lisp program from Jorge> an “initialization file”, or “init file” for short. This file, if Jorge> it exists, specifies how to initialize Emacs for you. If the file Jorge> ‘~/.config/emacs/init.el’ exists, it is used as the init file; Jorge> otherwise Emacs may look at ‘~/.emacs.el’, ‘~/.emacs’, Jorge> ‘~/.emacs.d/init.el’, or other locations. *Note Find Init::. Jorge> So [[info:emacs#Find Init]] says that `~/.emacs.d' and `~/.emacs' are Jorge> preferred, while [[info:emacs#Init File]] says that Jorge> `~/.config/emacs/init.el' is preferred. Yes, that is indeed inconsistent, I missed that part of the manual when flipping the XDG preference. I thought this would be a simple change, but as ever the rabbit hole was deep. Based on testing '~/.emacs.el' is preferred to '~/.emacs', is that expected? Anyway, I came up with the following: diff --git a/doc/emacs/custom.texi b/doc/emacs/custom.texi index 719e09e861..00c8ee4f98 100644 --- a/doc/emacs/custom.texi +++ b/doc/emacs/custom.texi @@ -2252,10 +2252,13 @@ Init File When Emacs is started, it normally tries to load a Lisp program from an @dfn{initialization file}, or @dfn{init file} for short. This file, if it exists, specifies how to initialize Emacs for you. -If the file @file{~/.config/emacs/init.el} exists, it is used as the -init file; otherwise Emacs may look at @file{~/.emacs.el}, -@file{~/.emacs}, @file{~/.emacs.d/init.el}, or other locations. -@xref{Find Init}. +Traditionally, file @file{~/.emacs} is used as the init file, although +Emacs also looks at @file{~/.emacs.el}, @file{~/.emacs.d/init.el}, +@file{~/.config/emacs/init.el}, or other locations. @xref{Find Init}. + +You may find it convenient to have all your Emacs configuration in one +directory, in which case you should use @file{~/.emacs.d/init.el} or +the XDG-compatible @file{~/.config/emacs/init.el}. You can use the command line switch @samp{-q} to prevent loading your init file, and @samp{-u} (or @samp{--user}) to specify a @@ -2661,23 +2664,21 @@ Find Init @subsection How Emacs Finds Your Init File Emacs normally finds your init file in a location under your home -directory. @xref{Init File}. By default this location is -@file{~/.emacs.d/init.el} where @file{~/} stands for your home directory. -This default can be overridden as described below. +directory. @xref{Init File}. -Emacs looks for your init file -using the filenames @file{~/.emacs.el}, @file{~/.emacs}, or -@file{~/.emacs.d/init.el}; you can choose to use any one of these -names. (Note that only the locations directly in your home directory -have a leading dot in the location's basename.) + Emacs looks for your init file using the filenames @file{~/.emacs.el}, +@file{~/.emacs}, or @file{~/.emacs.d/init.el} in that order; you can +choose to use any one of these names. (Note that only the locations +directly in your home directory have a leading dot in the location's +basename.) Emacs can also look in an XDG-compatible location for @file{init.el}, the default is the directory @file{~/.config/emacs}. This can be overriden by setting @env{XDG_CONFIG_HOME} in your environment, its value replaces @file{~/.config} in the name of the default XDG init -file. However @file{~/.emacs.d} and @file{~/.emacs} are always -preferred if they exist, which means that you must delete or rename -them in order to use the XDG location. +file. However @file{~/.emacs.d}, @file{~/.emacs}, and +@file{~/.emacs.el} are always preferred if they exist, which means +that you must delete or rename them in order to use the XDG location. Note also that if neither the XDG location nor @file{~/.emacs.d} exist, then Emacs will create @file{~/.emacs.d} (and therefore use it ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* bug#42388: 27.0.91; Manual is inconsistent about default init file location 2020-07-16 17:00 ` Robert Pluim @ 2020-07-16 19:27 ` Eli Zaretskii 2020-07-17 13:10 ` Robert Pluim 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-07-16 19:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Robert Pluim; +Cc: jorge, 42388 > From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:00:04 +0200 > Cc: 42388@debbugs.gnu.org > > Yes, that is indeed inconsistent, I missed that part of the manual > when flipping the XDG preference. > > I thought this would be a simple change, but as ever the rabbit hole > was deep. Based on testing '~/.emacs.el' is preferred to '~/.emacs', > is that expected? Anyway, I came up with the following: LGTM, please install on the release branch. Thanks. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* bug#42388: 27.0.91; Manual is inconsistent about default init file location 2020-07-16 19:27 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-07-17 13:10 ` Robert Pluim 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Robert Pluim @ 2020-07-17 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: jorge, 42388 >>>>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 22:27:37 +0300, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> said: >> I thought this would be a simple change, but as ever the rabbit hole >> was deep. Based on testing '~/.emacs.el' is preferred to '~/.emacs', >> is that expected? Anyway, I came up with the following: Eli> LGTM, please install on the release branch. Done as f50d79af6b Robert ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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