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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: When are unused overlays garbage collected?
Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 15:34:24 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y2c1ad2n.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874keqdr5v.fsf@mbork.pl> (message from Marcin Borkowski on Wed,  26 May 2021 07:01:48 +0200)

> From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
> Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 07:01:48 +0200
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> 
> > Markers share some of their implementation with overlays, but because
> > markers do not affect the display and because there is nothing
> > corresponding to `overlays-at' or `overlays-in', Emacs goes through the
> > trouble of GC'ing those markers which are still reachable via the
> > buffer's internal variables (its list of markers) as long as they're not
> > reachable some other way, of course.
> 
> Thanks, too, this is pretty interesting.  I assume one possible reason
> for not having `markers-in' (analogous to `overlays-in') is that an
> overlay (even without any variable pointing to it, IOW, a "name" for it)
> has some "semantics" (properties), so it can be "guessed" what it is
> for; for markers, we would only know that "someone wanted to remember
> this position, but we have no idea why/what for", so why even bother
> keeping it?

I think we don't have markers-in because it isn't needed.  overlays-in
is needed when you want to find the next or the previous overlay, or
when you need to know what faces contribute to the appearance of a
character at certain position.  There's no such need for markers.

> > So it's OK to create markers are then forget about them, but it's not
> > OK to create overlays and then forget about them: you need to manually
> > `delete-overlay` when you're done with them otherwise they'll accumulate
> > in the buffer.
> 
> And that is probably the most important takeaway here - but it raises
> another question.  If I create an overlay in some buffer, keep no
> references to it, and then kill the buffer - is the overlay eligible for
> GC?

Yes, killing a buffer deletes all of its overlays (and all of its
markers).



  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-26 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-24  5:00 When are unused overlays garbage collected? Marcin Borkowski
2021-05-24  5:05 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-24  6:33   ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-05-24 12:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-26  4:53   ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-05-26  7:23     ` tomas
2021-05-26 15:36       ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-26 16:52         ` tomas
2021-05-26 12:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-27 16:20       ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-05-27 16:41         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-28 19:38           ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-05-24 17:07 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-26  5:01   ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-05-26 12:34     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-05-27 16:23       ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-05-26 14:48     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-27 16:26       ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-05-27 21:42         ` Stefan Monnier

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