From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29805: 27.0; doc of `tooltip-resize-echo-area' Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 21:08:29 +0300 Message-ID: <83y26j4ns2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5A3D4775.2010700@gmx.at> <7614565b-94d6-40fe-a3d1-cf51235a21bc@default> <5A3E14EC.3010809@gmx.at> <5A3EA97E.9060501@gmx.at> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36617"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 29805@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 23 20:09:20 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1meLSK-0009Ig-Iq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 20:09:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60582 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meLSI-0005fQ-Lk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 14:09:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54714) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meLS2-0005cY-Ju for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 14:09:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53874) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meLS2-0004dK-Bd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 14:09:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1meLS2-0005Wt-3C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 14:09:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 18:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29805 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 29805-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B29805.163501253021238 (code B ref 29805); Sat, 23 Oct 2021 18:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 29805) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2021 18:08:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37187 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1meLRp-0005WT-Vx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 14:08:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57376) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1meLRo-0005WC-I2 for 29805@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 14:08:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39690) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meLRi-0003r7-FX; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 14:08:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2573 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meLRi-00056d-2C; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 14:08:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Sat, 23 Oct 2021 10:48:00 -0700) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:218017 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 10:48:00 -0700 > Cc: 29805@debbugs.gnu.org > > > But this is just my POV of this matter. As should be clear from my > > previous remarks in this thread, I apparently do not understand the > > use of the echo area for showing tooltips and neither the difference > > between echo area and minibuffer. So I'll rather leave this for the > > inventor of `tooltip-resize-echo-area' to fix. > > Eli, I guess that unnamed inventor is you. Perhaps you could take a > look at the above and see what you think. > > commit 9b3ce6252115980802adaa562af575bcd73a2c55 > Author: Eli Zaretskii > Date: Sat Oct 7 15:04:37 2017 +0300 > > New defcustom 'tooltip-resize-echo-area' > > * lisp/tooltip.el (tooltip-resize-echo-area): New defcustom. > (tooltip-show-help-non-mode): Use it to avoid truncating the > tooltip text in the echo area. (Bug#28724) What is unclear about it? Drew thinks the doc string should say something about stand-alone minibuffer frames, but only Drew can explain why. The doc string talks specifically about the echo-area, and about the situation where tooltips are shown in the echo-area; it says nothing about minibuffers or minibuffer-only frames.