From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2022 13:54:27 +0300 Message-ID: <83y1ttp6ho.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bkqxf1ij.fsf@tethera.net> <83tu4odez7.fsf@gnu.org> <871qrrpkgx.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <834jwnbi6c.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtafnun5.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83sfk6ahty.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8p1aiof.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <87v8p01lbu.fsf@yahoo.com> <83lepwvzxq.fsf@gnu.org> <871qroyog9.fsf@yahoo.com> <837d1gvt35.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfk3yl10.fsf@yahoo.com> <87o7uqtlsl.fsf@yahoo.com> <83sfk2rzjs.fsf@gnu.org> <87k05du6x0.fsf@yahoo.com> <83tu4hqxp8.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilkxs9yg.fsf@yahoo.com> <83czb5qsyk.fsf@gnu.org> <87edvls2ho.fsf@yahoo.com> <831qrlqms5.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12640"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andrea Corallo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 06 13:08:45 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ogOk9-0003AC-7X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 13:08:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44602 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ogOk6-0002JK-P6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 07:08:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48750) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ogOWO-0000Xv-SR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 06:54:33 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41856) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ogOWO-0001YH-KT; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 06:54:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=tQX2Gy71gX1/ln3+kl0yjJnwRrnYhHo16EFaO7mw5lE=; b=HJdVuVkhbU/J w3KJI3nXsebVw2slURKi659X4RLk4RuBpfqf0Rgat0q/t1mqkMIxb3eF4OzCAfsrgs9ysH+rMB7j/ WSznl6eQWvfv5SWsL3SNMymO3t+u4vkJWSeVtilLHJssPciV4yDeLyt53/9UEMU9/5Kq0gPH/ROub ws5HJl9+yP9c8KfeM5mfUipdLyF++0j4HCwp09lYPOZTjS2rZn/3Ate9waP2aYXgREIl8/YPsMtbd WObZ8u8Ov0RNZuy4vYxhRbeAQjeIBj4VVQYLRLXnu2vhUlMeZy3w7cNujMfj1HTfPxJr1jqo1q2bi BWBIlUsTdaJLaJfDyXB4mw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2767 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ogOWN-0006mD-8F; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 06:54:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Andrea Corallo on Thu, 06 Oct 2022 10:41:14 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297089 Archived-At: > From: Andrea Corallo > Cc: Po Lu , emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2022 10:41:14 +0000 > > >> I think display-battery-mode users (I am one such user) will not agree > >> with that assessment. > > > > I didn't invent that, I've heard laptop users complain about timers. > > For my education: why timer are computational expensive? They are not, at least not normally. But they interfere with the OS's attempts to conserve power, because Emacs is not idle, as far as the OS is concerned -- it runs some stuff once every so-and-so seconds.