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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Tom Gillespie <tgbugs@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] * etc/NEWS: Announce addition of BOM to utf-8-auto
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:16:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y1pk3y6r.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+G3_PMTAXx70+Ta=D8fEHgHdRXY0XYhAU21vTqhy7Pbb0sP4A@mail.gmail.com> (message from Tom Gillespie on Sun, 29 Jan 2023 14:56:11 -0500)

> From: Tom Gillespie <tgbugs@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2023 14:56:11 -0500
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> >  Encoding with 'utf-8-auto' now correctly produces a byte order mark.
> 
> Much better.
> 
> > Maybe (you assume that people really read all the small print in
> > NEWS?).  But first, could you explain why on earth are you using
> > utf-8-auto _on_encoding_?  It basically makes no sense at all.
> 
> Hah, no, I don't think many people do, but maybe the maintainers
> of some of the more widely used packages might?

I'll dwell on this.

> If I had to guess this issue is probably the result of people
> copying what is done in async.el where there is a comment
> that reads:
> 
>   ;; FIXME: Why use `utf-8-auto' instead of `utf-8-unix'?  This is
>   ;; a communication channel over which we have complete control,
>   ;; so we get to choose exactly which encoding and EOL we use, isn't it?
> 
> https://github.com/jwiegley/emacs-async/blob/270c3d0bd99386dd9a8538990401993a6a3cb1bc/async.el#L201-L203
> 
> Which suggests that your account of the confusion is exactly the issue.
> 
> However there is also a comment about it somehow mitigating issues
> with strings that have EOFs in them?? Is this even true?
> 
>   ;; Just in case the string we're sending might contain EOF
>   (encode-coding-region (point-min) (point-max) 'utf-8-auto)
> https://github.com/jwiegley/emacs-async/blob/270c3d0bd99386dd9a8538990401993a6a3cb1bc/async.el#L222-L223

I think both of these are mistakes of the kind I described.  I filed
an issue with emacs-async, but someone should probably fix the one we
have in ELPA.  Stefan?



  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-30 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-29 17:58 [PATCH] * etc/NEWS: Announce addition of BOM to utf-8-auto Tom Gillespie
2023-01-29 18:14 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-01-29 18:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-29 19:11   ` Tom Gillespie
2023-01-29 19:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-29 19:56       ` Tom Gillespie
2023-01-30 14:16         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-01-30 15:06           ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-30 17:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-02 10:36         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-02 17:56           ` Tom Gillespie

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