From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unhelpful text in C-h v search-default-mode Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2023 09:54:54 +0200 Message-ID: <83y1dd5tpt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86frzlv6fy.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83zfxt5twt.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6787"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: juri@linkov.net, acm@muc.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 29 08:55:38 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rJ7iT-0001Za-Sd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 08:55:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rJ7i3-0003Y3-GW; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 02:55:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rJ7i1-0003Xn-Uw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 02:55:09 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rJ7hz-0000Ta-7B; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 02:55:09 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=OsARMrr7T+iH8UiAtUG0fIbxoa+WkPK+O6y+yYN+bAE=; b=dznQmMElXFRX 7E72GW9TLx+xgCCPmrigJpBUsD54tPGQNYzJOG3NFYTE3Kv69bnrv+T2to42RNUeWRGWiv91b8Cr1 zTVSYsN7DDEB4UXtC906bVqs14YP2MmG2SN3hIN7YzoVlYqx+eCvPvyEhkHFtziiWoc5WfNmsIVb2 pCfJeDy6X8wA0XO2lNrnb3aOw/TCbTa/4uvdRWe0uDkw7UVBwFADg5jcFBCM5yvI5DZtuG6J6VagR 81IEyf/G86nihq8kH14hrrbc/WQRCIyct9fiPfw+/rgkTuc7vkoIF1EeboQ1DgiIK3cNtke6fgn5u QnxnaeInBlrG9MexyI6NHQ==; In-Reply-To: <83zfxt5twt.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 29 Dec 2023 09:50:42 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314316 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2023 09:50:42 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > From: Juri Linkov > > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2023 09:12:49 +0200 > > > > 0. emacs -Q > > 1. M-x list-timers > > > > * 0.1s t show-paren-function > > * 0.5s t # > > > > I wonder how users are supposed to know what function it is? > > Searching by the delay number 0.5 reveals this lambda comes from > > > > (setq jit-lock-context-timer > > (run-with-idle-timer jit-lock-context-time t > > (lambda () > > (unless jit-lock--antiblink-grace-timer > > (jit-lock-context-fontify))))) > > > > What happens with that in a build without native-compilation? does > what list-timers shows in that case look more friendly? Answering my own question: 0.2s 0.5s blink-cursor-timer-function * 0.1s t show-paren-function * 0.5s :repeat blink-cursor-start * 0.5s t #f(compiled-function () # [jit-lock--antiblink-grace-timer jit-lock-context-fontify]) So are you saying that # is friendlier than #? If so, please explain how is it friendlier.