From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Basic Bazaar guide for Emacs hackers. Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:21:17 +0200 Message-ID: <83ws16la2q.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87skbzblp5.fsf@telefonica.net> <87y6log42q.fsf@red-bean.com> <87y6lo8zgi.fsf@telefonica.net> <87638sy5ab.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tywc8u7t.fsf@telefonica.net> <87k4x76wpp.fsf@telefonica.net> <8e0e71cb0911302252v6a7c9f80j532308eb0a842816@mail.gmail.com> <4B14D4FC.8070509@gnu.org> <8e0e71cb0912010726k56f90cbbm8d96b5e0dd3a6b6f@mail.gmail.com> <837ht6ms94.fsf@gnu.org> <873a3u8o45.fsf@notengoamigos.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259699018 7097 80.91.229.12 (1 Dec 2009 20:23:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:23:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jason Earl Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 01 21:23:31 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NFZFw-0008K9-Bf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:23:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33616 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NFZFv-0004eQ-Om for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:23:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NFZFq-0004d5-EL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:23:22 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NFZFl-0004ZJ-Hf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:23:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35182 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NFZFl-0004ZG-F6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:23:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:65297) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NFZFl-0004su-8F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:23:17 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KTZ00I00PLNRJ00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:23:16 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.213.252]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KTZ00EFIPYR8GD0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:23:16 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <873a3u8o45.fsf@notengoamigos.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:118061 Archived-At: > From: Jason Earl > Cc: Karl Fogel , ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:56:26 -0700 > > The history is also needed if you want to do any sort of bzr command, > like bzr log or bzr annotate. As you well know, these go upstream in CVS as well. So this is not really a loss for people who want a familiar CVS-like setup. > At some point we need to point people at the existing Bazaar > documentation. After reading through all of it, I think it's not organized well for a single reading. I needed to read both manuals several times before it started making sense. Showing one option (--lightweight) and one command (commit --local) is hardly worth sending people to wade through the canonical docs, just to find that it, too, says that a lightweight checkout is almost like CVS. Anyway, that's my last post on this issue. I hope my opinions on this are clear enough. I don't think I will use the CVS-like setup, but I see no reason not to help those who will.