From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What are advantages and disadvantages of RMAIL and mh-rmail ? Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 14:14:05 +0300 Message-ID: <83wqm1dwqq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5ili3zuuj0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <878uyoua8b.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <8761tr9ofa.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87ob7iq5sf.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87hada9h6z.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87r4c9yenn.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <874n9563da.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87had5604d.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <874n95xqwh.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87siwpl1x2.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380366877 3538 80.91.229.3 (28 Sep 2013 11:14:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 11:14:37 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 28 13:14:39 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VPsTv-00039h-6a for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 13:14:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40654 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VPsTu-0008MC-OU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 07:14:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59937) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VPsTf-0008Kv-NG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 07:14:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VPsTa-0007ZP-JX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 07:14:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:61519) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VPsTa-0007ZL-B4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 07:14:18 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MTU00H001EZDD00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 14:14:17 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MTU00HI61VND030@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 14:14:12 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87siwpl1x2.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93705 Archived-At: > From: Emanuel Berg > Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 11:40:00 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> shell access to the mails (instead of that T-Rex RMAIL file) > > > > There's nothing wrong with Rmail in this respect, it's > > your usage of it that was broken or at least > > sub-optimal. > > Wrong (see below). Not wrong (see below). > > E.g., I use Rmail for the last 20 years > > We can disagree without having to pull rank. There's nothing wrong in citing a long experience. > Because this was a misunderstanding, I'm not going to be angry about > it. Likewise. > That's *size* is not the point. The problem is it is > only *one* file. If you read my description, you now know that it's not one file, but multiple files. > I want *one file per mail*. That way, I > can employ all my shell tools, and my Emacs shortcuts, > in a faster and more refined way. I also explained how to employ tools, perhaps not yours, but nonetheless very useful, to manage and search mail archives without having to put each message on a separate file (which IMO is just the opposite extreme of having them all in a single file, and thus similarly inefficient and inconvenient). > But your advice are, I'm sure, beneficial for Rmail users. Sure hope so.