From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19468: 25.0.50; UI inconveniences with M-. Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 18:03:14 +0300 Message-ID: <83wq0wuwgd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83zja6b3tc.fsf@gnu.org> <54A24079.4020902@yandex.ru> <54A2FF47.6010207@yandex.ru> <54A86135.7080004@yandex.ru> <54A90002.7080009@gmx.at> <54A9C3FB.7000602@yandex.ru> <54AA3881.3080304@gmx.at> <54ABBB47.7010603@yandex.ru> <837fszx7iy.fsf@gnu.org> <83pp6pwqnw.fsf@gnu.org> <553EB74A.4030208@yandex.ru> <553EC300.9030904@yandex.ru> <553EED28.5050902@yandex.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1430236035 11758 80.91.229.3 (28 Apr 2015 15:47:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 15:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19468@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 28 17:46:59 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn7is-0002rb-Kq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:46:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34521 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn7is-0004ZU-2u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 11:46:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42082) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn74P-0005ke-5K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 11:05:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn74J-0003UF-BH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 11:05:09 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:53135) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn74J-0003Tr-7s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 11:05:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn74J-0003Bv-1D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 11:05:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 15:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19468 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19468-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19468.143023347112222 (code B ref 19468); Tue, 28 Apr 2015 15:05:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19468) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2015 15:04:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42910 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn73k-0003Az-9d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 11:04:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:42240) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn73e-0003Ac-FT for 19468@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 11:04:26 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NNI00L00UVDIX00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 19468@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 18:03:26 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NNI00LBRV5KFB60@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 18:03:20 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <553EED28.5050902@yandex.ru> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:102174 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 05:15:04 +0300 > From: Dmitry Gutov > Cc: 19468@debbugs.gnu.org > > Could be. But etags has been around for a long time and was the only > "standard feature" of the kind until very recently in Emacs, so I think > it's fair to assume that there are more such users out there. > > etags might be popular (so some sort a general solution might be welcome), but that doesn't mean it's used with Elisp a lot. What alternatives were there, before xref? > For instance, if we consider Debian-like distributions, https://packages.debian.org/jessie/all/emacs24-el/filelist does not include the TAGS file. I don't think the C sources are generally included in the binary distributions. It's easy to generate TAGS for Lisp files, if one needs them. We describe all that in the user manual. > And if we're just talking about Emacs developers, I wonder why nobody else spoke up on emacs-devel or in this bug yet. This goes both ways: no one spoke about xref, either. I wouldn't assign any significance to that.