From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Package initialization Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 19:51:43 +0300 Message-ID: <83wpxw3xb4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87twt1dmxu.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1437324734 21610 80.91.229.3 (19 Jul 2015 16:52:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 16:52:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Helmut Eller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 19 18:52:07 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGrot-0006e6-GT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:52:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52101 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGrot-0000Wk-0p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:52:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35992) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGroi-0000WU-5N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:51:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGrof-00018D-03 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:51:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:63252) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGroe-000187-Of for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:51:52 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NRQ00G00UA30600@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 19:51:51 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NRQ00FRHUUEYS40@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 19:51:51 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187994 Archived-At: > From: Helmut Eller > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 09:23:35 +0200 > Cc: Artur Malabarba , > emacs-devel > > lazy initialization would also not work well if those autoloaded > commands should be bound to keys because before the first invocation > the keys would not be bound. We already have that working. This is how, for example, you can see what M-$ is bound to, although ispell.el is not loaded until actually invoked.