From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20253: 24.4; Document `region' face behavior changes, overlay, priority Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:37:01 +0300 Message-ID: <83wpih7ynm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <<0ad651bb-89bc-4e86-9354-063db1c400a2@default>> <<87inu2vx36.fsf@gmail.com>> <<83k2eh9ic9.fsf@gnu.org>> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1473705504 2678 195.159.176.226 (12 Sep 2016 18:38:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 18:38:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20253@debbugs.gnu.org, agrambot@gmail.com To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 12 20:38:16 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bjW7T-0008BQ-4m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 20:38:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44583 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bjW7R-0005em-8s for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:38:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45723) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bjW7L-0005eV-3b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:38:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bjW7G-0001o1-77 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:38:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:60208) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bjW7G-0001nx-4L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:38:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bjW7F-0002UE-VX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:38:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 18:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20253 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20253-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20253.14737054479478 (code B ref 20253); Mon, 12 Sep 2016 18:38:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20253) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2016 18:37:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57918 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bjW6g-0002So-NX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:37:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54589) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bjW6e-0002SH-3r for 20253@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:37:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bjW6V-0001et-PD for 20253@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:37:19 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41367) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bjW6V-0001ei-Lt; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:37:15 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1985 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bjW6R-0007EB-Mf; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:37:14 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Mon, 12 Sep 2016 10:19:42 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:123230 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 10:19:42 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, 20253@debbugs.gnu.org > > I disagree that THIS is an "internal" and "obscure" feature, and > that "it is not supposed to be used by Lisp programs that are not > part of Emacs". It cannot be, if users want to control the behavior > of the `region' overlay and similar. Of course, you disagree: you filed the bug, didn't you? > Questions about this arise from end users. I didn't see any. Please invite those users to ask the questions here or on emacs-devel. Maybe I will change my mind after hearing them. > And the question of this bug report is not only about documenting > (nil . NUMBER). It is about documenting the user-visible _behavior_ > change for region highlighting, and how to accommodate and control it. I said nothing about that part.