From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preview: portable dumper Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 22:07:26 +0200 Message-ID: <83wpfmqcch.fsf@gnu.org> References: <047a67ec-9e29-7e4e-0fb0-24c3e59b5886@dancol.org> <83zikjxt1j.fsf@gnu.org> <721b8fb1-5672-778e-b68f-a68b53308f55@cs.ucla.edu> <83vav7xs1p.fsf@gnu.org> <83twarxq6f.fsf@gnu.org> <834m2qrux9.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480450185 5108 195.159.176.226 (29 Nov 2016 20:09:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 20:09:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, dancol@dancol.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: John Wiegley Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 29 21:09:41 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cBoii-00008i-NN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 21:09:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39094 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cBoil-0003Du-0Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 15:09:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32916) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cBogs-0002iG-4n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 15:07:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cBogn-000409-Rh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 15:07:46 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39805) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cBogn-000405-OH; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 15:07:41 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1225 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cBogl-0002QM-Of; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 15:07:41 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from John Wiegley on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 11:11:15 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209761 Archived-At: > From: John Wiegley > Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, dancol@dancol.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 11:11:15 -0800 > > >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > By contrast, dumping code is a central and mandatory part of building Emacs > > and of its startup process. It cannot be ignored or made optional. > > Could we ask Daniel to include his code under an #ifdef, so until it's proven > we can always disable it, or back out the changes easily if need be? What would that solve? Don't we still need to review the patches, compile the code once in a while, debug it as needed, etc.? > I'd like to entertain the experiment, if we can. Fine, but why do you need me for that? What would be my role in that experiment?