From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29759: 25.2; "exciting footnote styles" promised, but unavailable Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 18:00:52 +0200 Message-ID: <83wp1aiyq3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20171217213114.mti6zqnlsibvaqj7@E15-2016.optimum.net> <83wp1elt4i.fsf@gnu.org> <20171224200258.htvzo6vhsuy3p6ds@E15-2016.optimum.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1514217556 4673 195.159.176.226 (25 Dec 2017 15:59:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 15:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 29759@debbugs.gnu.org To: Boruch Baum Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 25 16:59:12 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eTV9h-0000fY-3q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 16:59:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52791 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTVBf-00053O-QK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 11:01:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51844) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTVBZ-00052Z-M2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 11:01:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTVBW-0008Sl-K5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 11:01:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:43285) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTVBW-0008SY-Fl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 11:01:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eTVBW-0005Iy-7z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 11:01:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 16:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29759 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 29759-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B29759.151421765620371 (code B ref 29759); Mon, 25 Dec 2017 16:01:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 29759) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2017 16:00:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51966 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eTVBQ-0005IU-0q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 11:00:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60599) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eTVBO-0005II-A1 for 29759@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 11:00:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTVBG-0008Hk-32 for 29759@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 11:00:49 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43251) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTVBG-0008HZ-0I; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 11:00:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2555 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eTVBF-0002YX-Eu; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 11:00:45 -0500 In-reply-to: <20171224200258.htvzo6vhsuy3p6ds@E15-2016.optimum.net> (message from Boruch Baum on Sun, 24 Dec 2017 15:02:58 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:141484 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 15:02:58 -0500 > From: Boruch Baum > Cc: 29759-done@debbugs.gnu.org > > On 2017-12-22 16:44, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > I've removed that reference on the release branch. > > ... > > Thanks, pushed to the master branch. > > Compare your response to that of libre-office[א]: no-fuss, completed in > a few days, compared to a four-year drawn-out process involving too much > educating. I hope you like our process better ;-) > > (Of course, to have Hebrew-style footnotes be rendered correctly, > > starting at the left side of the window, one needs to either replace > > the "Footnotes" header with something like "הערות שוליים", or insert a > > newline after "Footnotes:". But footnote.el doesn't yet support > > localized headers.) > > I'm not sure what you mean[ב]. Variable 'footnote-section-tag' can be set > to a localized string, either by evaluation or through > customize-variable. Right, I missed that. But then at least the Hebrew styles should also automatically set that variable (and footnote-section-tag-regexp), don't you agree? Or do we envision someone using a Hebrew style, but writing predominantly LTR text for the footnotes themselves? > What is annoying for me now is using RTL footnotes in an LTR > document, because the footnote section keeps bouncing between LTR > and RTL whenever emacs prompts me for word-completion candidates (I > think that would be 'company-mode'). Sounds like a bug. Company mode solves some tricky display issues, so maybe there's something there that doesn't work well with bidi. Please make a separate bug report, preferably starting from "emacs -Q" and loading the required add-on packages as needed. Thanks.