From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#35360: 26.2; Default bindings of `A' and `Q' in Dired, for MS Windows users Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 13:13:18 +0300 Message-ID: <83wojm73gh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <<2ee4e871-a51a-47fe-bb67-8ff0f12a986b@default>> <<83wojn89ee.fsf@gnu.org>> <<87bm0zcg9e.fsf@gmx.de>> <<6be7fe2c-a1ff-4334-8251-86761610a4f4@default>> <<83muki8t8b.fsf@gnu.org>> <92c7d2aa-1f2a-4902-af26-e322d4b5d8dd@default> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="25283"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: michael.albinus@gmx.de, 35360@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 22 12:14:18 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hIVxp-0006OT-Q5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2019 12:14:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35078 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hIVxo-00028J-R7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2019 06:14:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57364) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hIVxb-00024n-Bq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2019 06:14:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hIVxa-0004N7-GA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2019 06:14:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36251) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hIVxa-0004N3-DK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2019 06:14:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hIVxa-0006MB-5U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2019 06:14:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 10:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 35360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 35360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B35360.155592801924376 (code B ref 35360); Mon, 22 Apr 2019 10:14:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 35360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Apr 2019 10:13:39 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49791 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hIVxC-0006L6-TS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2019 06:13:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42910) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hIVxB-0006Kr-G4 for 35360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2019 06:13:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38400) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hIVx5-0004Ed-2B; Mon, 22 Apr 2019 06:13:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3791 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hIVx1-0002QD-4e; Mon, 22 Apr 2019 06:13:30 -0400 In-reply-to: <92c7d2aa-1f2a-4902-af26-e322d4b5d8dd@default> (message from Drew Adams on Mon, 22 Apr 2019 02:58:41 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:158002 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 02:58:41 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: michael.albinus@gmx.de, 35360@debbugs.gnu.org > > > If you think that discussing ways to fix the problem for Windows users > > who don't have 'find' and 'grep' does not belong to this bug report, > > then why did you file this bug report? Isn't fixing the problem the > > goal of this report? If not, what is its goal? > > Certainly if you do fix the problem in the way suggested > by Michael then this bug report will also be taken care of. > > But this need not wait to be fixed that way - it need not > wait (how long?) for such a complete solution. If you, or someone else, submit a fix soon, then the problem will be solved soon. I don't know how to fix the problem sooner than a patch for it is available. > We have, essentially, a regression. There are simple ways > to work around it - while waiting for the more complete > solution that Michael suggests. My suggestion is to do one > of those things _until or unless_ the more complete solution > is available. Let's not just leave things broken until then. We don't want to use the workaround you suggested, because it's a step backward. > In any case, I'm happy and grateful to hear that you intend > to fix this correctly. That should have been clear since the first response to your bug report.