From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 17:36:51 +0300 Message-ID: <83woip9mgs.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20190514235412.kncazq45szlum2gr@Ergus> <83v9yb92c7.fsf@gnu.org> <878sv7sp3r.fsf@telefonica.net> <83r28z8zl9.fsf@gnu.org> <20190515210924.sijzy6mnpgzkt4gm@Ergus> <83ftpecwu1.fsf@gnu.org> <20190516161408.4dov3dwk5h4yoizn@Ergus> <838sv6cmwt.fsf@gnu.org> <20190516202327.5cgy2s4kppy3ahxa@Ergus> <871s0yqg2i.fsf@telefonica.net> <3210C8E9-7A74-47D6-81A0-470948E6D09C@gmail.com> <87r28xq0j1.fsf@telefonica.net> <576240a5-c92a-5cf8-898b-43f214a2b580@yandex.ru> <83imu9beyn.fsf@gnu.org> <8463581c-c40f-a66a-5c9c-0995a3b45cd0@yandex.ru> <83bm01b83i.fsf@gnu.org> <66e5fc8d-5cf4-89cd-5c4f-7fad581a97f5@yandex.ru> <83zhnl9pak.fsf@gnu.org> <6c23e6a7-91b9-92db-0f2d-ac11fdf5a35c@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="43132"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 17 16:37:34 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRdzI-000B5P-37 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 16:37:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49567 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRdzH-00082f-12 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 10:37:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44621) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRdyz-00082O-Nj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 10:37:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55341) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRdyz-0002Hq-LC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 10:37:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3698 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hRdyw-0004pW-PL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 10:37:13 -0400 In-reply-to: <6c23e6a7-91b9-92db-0f2d-ac11fdf5a35c@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 17 May 2019 16:43:14 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120486 Archived-At: > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 16:43:14 +0300 > > On 17.05.2019 16:35, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > No, that we have lots of inconsistencies in keybindings (or > > elsewhere). > > That would be a more difficult discussion You said you thought the competition was more popular because they are more consistent. We need evidence to support that, if we are to believe that this is a reason. And if it is a reason, we should work to eliminate those inconsistencies. Thus, a single example certainly is not enough to identify a general problem that could explain why we are less popular. > Why not fix at least one thing, then? I didn't say I objected to such a change. So this question is not for me to answer.