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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why doesn't emacs yield more?
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 21:46:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83woevajyr.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ax0Qlg.buzneAF4FD.L5U5XgxNDVnRzicgfcIq@freemail.hu> (message from ndame on Thu, 29 Aug 2019 17:39:20 +0200 (CEST))

> From: ndame <emacsuser@freemail.hu>
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 17:39:20 +0200 (CEST)
> 
> > Assuming it was redisplay that took most of the time: you cannot
> > interrupt it, not by default.  What would be the purpose of that?
> > Emacs cannot allow the display to be left in a state that is
> > inconsistent with the contents of the buffer, so it will immediately
> > reenter another redisplay cycle.
> 
> If I e.g. do a C-y and consquently emacs starts a long operation then
> if I interrupt then emacs could simply restore the buffer/display state
> from before the C-y state.

Emacs doesn't support transactional operations, not in general.  Once
you yank some text, the global state could be modified to the degree
that rolling it back may not be possible; and Emacs doesn't know how
anyway.

> I didn't see my C-y operation finish because of the redisplay, so I
> wouldn't mind if a C-g would cancel that too.

Most use cases are different.  What if, e.g., the command that hangs
sends some material over a network connection, or writes it to a file,
or passes it to a subprocess?

You can always undo manually, of course, and that could be one more
way of stopping a prolonged redisplay (assuming this is what caused
the delay in your case; you still haven't described enough detail for
me to know what are we talking about).

> I don't know if a snapshot can be made of the current buffer/display
> state, but if emacs can do that then it could simply restore the
> previous snapshot instantly, so there would be no issue of inconsistent
> buffer/display after interrupting.

That's a far cry from how Emacs was designed and implemented.  It
isn't a transactional system.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-29 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-29 15:39 Why doesn't emacs yield more? ndame
2019-08-29 18:46 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-08-29  9:33 ndame
2019-08-29 12:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-29 13:00 ` Stefan Monnier

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