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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
Cc: alexanderm@web.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	yyoncho@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Questions about throw-on-input
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 17:37:08 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83wo5h8bjf.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <742c0a6f-fc4c-6ac1-0233-85ad8671e199@dancol.org> (message from Daniel Colascione on Mon, 11 May 2020 19:39:33 -0700)

> Cc: eliz@gnu.org, yyoncho@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
> Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 19:39:33 -0700
> 
> > And while we are on the topic of threads, I wonder what is the
> > maintainers' opinion on https://nullprogram.com/blog/2018/05/31/,
> > specifically this part:
> > 
> >  > Update: ThreadSanitizer (TSan) quickly shows that Emacs’ threading
> >  > implementation has many data races, making it completely
> >  > untrustworthy. Until this is fixed, nobody should use Emacs threads
> >  > for any purpose, and threads should disabled at compile time.
> 
> Is TSan is just getting confused by the global lock? We don't have any 
> parallelism, so data races shouldn't be happening at all.

There doesn't seem to be any detailed description of the races it
uncovered, so it could well be that this is a red herring.

I do know about some racy conditions where we release the GIL and
select the next thread to run, but I'm cannot be sure they are the
same ones this blog is talking about.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-12 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-10 13:47 Questions about throw-on-input Alexander Miller
2020-05-11 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 15:21   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11 16:19     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 17:27       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11 17:39         ` Alexander Miller
2020-05-11 18:23           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 18:24           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11 19:48             ` Alexander Miller
2020-05-11 20:14               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-12 22:33                 ` Alexander Miller
2020-05-13 14:43                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-13 18:47                     ` Alexander Miller
2020-05-14  8:32                     ` Philipp Stephani
2020-05-14 14:23                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-14 14:37                         ` Philipp Stephani
2020-05-14 16:56                       ` Drew Adams
2020-05-15  3:21                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-15  3:54                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-15  8:19                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 15:45                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-15 16:46                                 ` Yuan Fu
2020-05-15 17:31                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-15 17:50                                     ` yyoncho
2020-05-15 18:44                                       ` Alexander Miller
2020-05-15 18:55                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-15 19:46                                         ` Philipp Stephani
2020-05-15 18:00                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-15 17:35                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 19:47                                 ` chad
2020-05-16 11:29                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-12  2:39           ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-12 14:37             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-05-11 18:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-09 13:09 Alexander Miller
2020-05-10 11:11 ` yyoncho
2020-05-07  7:31 Ivan Yonchovski
2020-05-07 12:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-07 14:28   ` Ivan Yonchovski
2020-05-07 21:11   ` yyoncho
2020-05-08  1:58     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-08  4:36       ` yyoncho
2020-05-08  4:43         ` yyoncho
2020-05-12  4:15       ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-05-08 10:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-08 11:23       ` Ivan Yonchovski
2020-05-08 11:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-08 11:55           ` yyoncho
2020-05-08 14:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-08 18:04           ` yyoncho
2020-05-07 13:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-07 15:36   ` Ivan Yonchovski

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