From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43866: 26.3; italian postfix additions Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 05:34:18 +0300 Message-ID: <83wnzsxln9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83tuv47vkn.fsf@gnu.org> <87ft6igdzi.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <837drt1qta.fsf@gnu.org> <874kmx443u.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83k0vszw0e.fsf@gnu.org> <87d01kvbnj.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34724"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 43866@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 15 04:35:09 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kSt6j-0008uG-7c for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 04:35:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49526 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSt6h-0002ed-RW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 22:35:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41992) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSt6c-0002eW-FQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 22:35:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:42177) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSt6c-0004uz-5N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 22:35:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kSt6c-00040a-1B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 22:35:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 02:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43866 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 43866-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43866.160272925515354 (code B ref 43866); Thu, 15 Oct 2020 02:35:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 43866) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Oct 2020 02:34:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53723 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kSt5r-0003za-AD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 22:34:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35048) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kSt5p-0003zN-18 for 43866@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 22:34:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41221) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSt5i-0004rn-LR; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 22:34:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3886 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kSt5h-0001q4-T3; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 22:34:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87d01kvbnj.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Wed, 14 Oct 2020 22:40:48 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:190536 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 43866@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 22:40:48 +0300 > > >> Yes, a new method might be useful as well. But since such method can't > >> be enabled all the time because such sequences as "= E" should be inserted > >> literally in normal circumstances. So such method needs to be enabled > >> temporarily, and it takes more time to enable/disable it, while it's > >> useful only to insert a single special character sometimes, it would be > >> much easier to type some prefix key before typing "= E" to insert € > >> when such a need arises occasionally. > > > > But turning an input method on and off is just 1 key, C-\, whereas > > 1 key C-\ to enable, and 1 key C-\ to disable. Also might need to select > another input method name from 'C-u C-\' when also using other input methods. Btw, input methods that use =E or E= could (and in many cases do) have ==E and E== to insert just "=E" and "E=", so no toggling is needed. > > I don't think it's right that the only Unicode input method we have is > > TeX -- that is great for TeX users, but many people don't use (La)TeX, > > and will find it unintuitive to type the TeX sequences. > > It seems the TeX input method requires typing whole Unicode names, > or at least unambiguous parts of names, e.g. '\euro' inserts €, > '\smile' inserts ⌣, but can't type '\smiling face with sunglasses'. > Also I see a hex Unicode input method in uni-input.el that supports > e.g. U or u, RFC1345 mnemonics in rfc1345.el, > SGML entities in sgml-input.el. So adding a X11 Compose method would be handy. Agreed.