From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 22:38:15 +0200 Message-ID: <83wnwojxe0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k0sp27f6.fsf@gnu.org> <83eeiwlsn6.fsf@gnu.org> <831rewldok.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19392"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, ulm@gentoo.org, ams@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 07 22:02:12 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kxcQ7-0004uO-W6 for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 22:02:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37452 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxcQ7-0007KG-0R for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 16:02:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52584) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxc37-0005cq-8M for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:38:27 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37519) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxc36-0000mG-5m; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:38:24 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3018 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kxc2y-0006lI-8d; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:38:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Thu, 7 Jan 2021 23:31:47 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:500 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 23:31:47 +0300 > From: Jean Louis > Cc: arthur.miller@live.com, rms@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, > dgutov@yandex.ru, ulm@gentoo.org, emacs-tangents@gnu.org > > > Where do you see the "in order to increase its popularity" part? That > > would mean to say something about the non-free packages that would > > represent them as beneficial or better than others or worthy of > > installing and using. I see none of that. > > I see that repology.org does not make any distinction and it cannot do > that easily technically. So it does not make neither free software nor > proprietary better or worse by any reasons. And that is the problem. How is it a problem? where's the promotion, please? > > GNU ELPA is not the issue here. The issue here is total rejection of > > software that dares to provide information about software packages > > which might not be Free Software. I explained why finding such > > information is important to me in my role as a GNU maintainer. > > I am only talking about GNU ELPA and if repology.org should be in GNU > ELPA as that way we would influence millions of people by giving them > references to non-free software. It would speak badly of GNU project. > > But that you use the package yourself, that is freedom of choice. But that's immoral, isn't it? If some other maintainer asks me how to do this job, I cannot tell him or her about repology.org, can I? If I do, Jean Louis will pounce on me and say that it's against GNU policies, right?