From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: Time to dial back the dialectic? [was: Re: Privileges and practicalities] Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 17:20:14 +0300 Message-ID: <83wnms6fdt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wnwn9r2l.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <87lf383nsm.fsf_-_@dick> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15673"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: dick Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 04 16:23:09 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mXOs0-0003u3-Gp for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 16:23:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46738 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXOrz-00008u-FU for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 10:23:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48980) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXOq5-0005og-EB for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 10:21:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55706) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXOq5-0001zt-6H; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 10:21:09 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3311 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXOpN-0006on-SU; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 10:20:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87lf383nsm.fsf_-_@dick> (message from dick on Mon, 04 Oct 2021 09:46:49 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:737 Archived-At: > From: dick > Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 09:46:49 -0400 > Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org > > herr Doctor, > > I'd wager the hundred or so guys who identify most with GNU would, if a > referendum were taken, say that: > > 1. Non-free is not an injustice, > > 2. *Gratis* is far and away more important to our users than *libre*, and > > 3. Non-free software can be used without compunction to improve our own *free* > software, and in countless ways, already does. > > In other words, I'll book an emission-intensive flight to the climate > conference if it means I don't have to join Greta on her toilet-less > trans-Atlantic catamaran. > > I presume NonGNU Elpa was your idea, and it was the right one. Now we just > need to take that initiative to its logical conclusion. Please don't use GNU mailing list for arguing with our views on Free Software; that is inappropriate. We have a special mailing list for such discussions: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org. If you want to have such a discussion, please take it there.