From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
Cc: cpitclaudel@gmail.com, stefan@marxist.se, yuri.v.khan@gmail.com,
db48x@db48x.net, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful, a simple solution
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2021 22:27:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83wnli5r60.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7cc91c798e37e63cc6fa@heytings.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Mon, 08 Nov 2021 19:58:56 +0000)
> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2021 19:58:56 +0000
> From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
> cc: cpitclaudel@gmail.com, stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
> db48x@db48x.net, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, yuri.v.khan@gmail.com
>
> So I'll say it one more time:
And you will be wrong one more time.
> Anyway, it's now clear that this problem will remain unfixed in Emacs.
Nothing is farther from the truth. Emacs does have solutions for
this, and they include those you applaud, but have also superior parts
and aspects. They are just not the solutions you consider to be the
only ones worth having. We also have infrastructure that can be
easily extended to provide more automatic detection of the suspicious
segments of text, if we want that.
So I can only conclude that you don't understand the issues well
enough to judge what is or isn't a good solution for them. Which
isn't surprising: this stuff is very complex and takes years to wrap
the head around it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-08 20:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 172+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-02 12:57 Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful Vasilij Schneidermann
2021-11-02 13:18 ` Po Lu
2021-11-02 13:54 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-11-02 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 15:21 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-11-02 16:24 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-11-02 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 17:01 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02 17:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 18:43 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 19:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-02 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 19:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-02 19:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 21:28 ` Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful, a simple solution Daniel Brooks
2021-11-03 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 17:41 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 18:20 ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-03 19:02 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 19:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 19:58 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 20:21 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 20:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 21:16 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 7:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 9:06 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 9:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 9:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 8:44 ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-03 18:45 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 19:35 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 20:45 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 20:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 21:23 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 6:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 8:53 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 9:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 19:54 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-03 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 6:00 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-04 7:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 9:14 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 9:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 10:41 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 11:03 ` Po Lu
2021-11-04 11:27 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 11:34 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 13:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 14:10 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 17:04 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 19:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-05 23:31 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-06 7:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 19:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-04 19:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 23:32 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 19:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 2:23 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-05 3:52 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 5:21 ` code annotations Daniel Brooks
2021-11-05 5:53 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 5:23 ` Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful, a simple solution Daniel Brooks
2021-11-05 6:13 ` Po Lu
2021-11-05 7:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 8:00 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 8:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 9:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 12:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 13:08 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 14:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 23:33 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-06 0:54 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-06 10:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 10:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-08 19:58 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-08 20:27 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-11-08 21:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-09 3:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 13:58 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2021-11-06 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 17:09 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2021-11-06 17:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 8:09 ` tomas
2021-11-06 1:09 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-05 8:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 9:34 ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-04 19:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 21:13 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-04 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 20:18 ` Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful Tim Cross
2021-11-03 0:28 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 1:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 1:59 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-03 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 9:59 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 11:19 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-03 11:31 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 12:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 12:41 ` tomas
2021-11-03 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 14:46 ` tomas
2021-11-03 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 17:34 ` tomas
2021-11-03 13:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 14:29 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 16:01 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 17:53 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 11:29 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-11-03 18:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 18:52 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 19:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 19:28 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 19:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 19:41 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 20:12 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 22:03 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 8:50 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 19:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 19:34 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-11-03 19:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 13:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 18:53 ` Manuel Giraud
2021-11-03 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 21:15 ` Manuel Giraud
2021-11-04 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 13:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 19:26 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02 19:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 19:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-02 18:16 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-11-02 18:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 19:17 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-02 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 17:24 ` [authors: default bidi-display-reordering is set to t] (was: Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful) Uwe Brauer
2021-11-02 17:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 14:31 ` Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 15:13 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-11-02 13:42 ` tomas
2021-11-02 14:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 14:43 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-11-03 15:07 ` Reini Urban
2021-11-03 15:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-04 7:50 ` Reini Urban
2021-11-04 8:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 17:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 14:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 18:53 ` Unicode confusables " Vasilij Schneidermann
2021-11-05 20:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 11:56 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2021-11-06 12:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 13:10 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2021-11-06 13:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 21:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-10 15:47 ` Unicode confusables and reordering characters " Dmitry Gutov
2021-11-10 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-10 17:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
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