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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
Cc: 56508@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#56508: Suggestions for the "Help" menu
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 05:40:30 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83wncjxdcx.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmkm3vfwfFfEevKWqPYRHMLDZE31aLX89EDkSrGp1sESvw@mail.gmail.com> (message from Stefan Kangas on Mon, 11 Jul 2022 21:04:51 -0500)

> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 21:04:51 -0500
> 
> Suggestions for the "Help" menu:

I object.  We just reshuffled that menu recently, let's not touch it
for another major release or two.

Specific comments:

>     1. Remove "Emacs FAQ".  It is not nearly as up-to-date as the
>        manual, and most users these days will either find it by other
>        means or just search the web.

So you are basically saying we don't need the FAQ?

>     2. Remove "Emacs Psychotherapist".  Sorry, but in terms of chatbots
>        there are *way* better ones out there these days.  If anything,
>        move it to "Games".

I object to making Emacs dead serious, because it will make it dead.

>     3. Remove "Non(Warranty)" and "Getting New Versions" as it is
>        already available under "About Emacs".

These are politically motivated and cannot be removed.

>     4. Under "Describe" we have the item "Show all of Mule Status" which
>        is a rather hard-to-understand name.  Does it need to be there?

Yes.

>        Should it get a better name?

Do you have any suggestions?

>     5. "Describe Coding System Briefly" under "Describe" -- is this
>        useful?  I just get this cryptic message here:
> 
>        F[U:],K[U:],T[U:],P>[=:],P<[=:], default F[U:],P>[U:],P<[U:]

It's completely understandable here: File encoding, Keyboard encoding,
Terminal encoding, Process encoding (input and output).

> I believe the above changes would make the "Help" menu more useful and
> less overwhelming.  Too much choice simply makes it harder to navigate.

I believe we should leave that menu alone.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-12  2:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-12  2:04 bug#56508: Suggestions for the "Help" menu Stefan Kangas
2022-07-12  2:40 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-07-12  3:16   ` Stefan Kangas
2022-07-12  8:26     ` miha--- via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-12 10:10       ` Stefan Kangas
2022-07-12 13:14         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-12 13:31         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-12 13:15       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-12 12:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-12 13:37       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-12 13:54         ` Stefan Kangas
2022-07-12 14:04       ` Stefan Kangas
2022-07-12 14:21         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-12 15:25         ` Drew Adams
2022-07-12 15:20       ` Drew Adams
2022-07-12 13:35   ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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