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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, corwin@bru.st, 58318@debbugs.gnu.org,
	bartosz.bubak@gmail.com
Subject: bug#58318: 28.2; Emacs installed from package won't work with MinGW
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 15:54:25 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83wn9bn69q.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xjfilkv3j6f.fsf@ma.sdf.org> (message from Andrea Corallo on Fri,  07 Oct 2022 12:35:52 +0000)

> From: Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>
> Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, corwin@bru.st, bartosz.bubak@gmail.com,
>         58318@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 12:35:52 +0000
> 
> >> > Maybe there's a misunderstanding of what you meant by "if a compiler
> >> > isn't present".  By "the compiler" do you mean libgccjit, or is it GCC
> >> > and Binutils (or maybe all 3 together)?  IOW, are you talking about
> >> > the ability to load existing *.eln files, or are you talking about the
> >> > ability to both load existing *.eln files and produce new ones?
> >> 
> >> I'm talking about trampolines, nothing else.
> >
> > Trampoline generation requires all the 3 components to be present,
> > AFAIK.  Andrea, am I right?
> 
> AFAIU only libgccjit and Binutils are necessary, but libgccjit *is* GCC
> (in the sense another frontend fo the GNU Compiler Collection).  I
> *think* gcc the binary (read the C frontend) should not be required.
> But I don't know how distros package libgccjit and gcc, there might be
> some dendency I'm not aware of.

I didn't mean gcc, I meant cc1.  But maybe libgccjit can play its
role, I don't know.

> > If it indeed doesn't work (and I wasn't aware it didn't work), we
> > should try fixing it, if that is feasible.
> 
> Yes because `yes-or-no-p' is a primitive, so with no trampolines its
> redefinition is not functional.
> 
> A quick ad-hoc fix for `yes-or-no-p' is attached.  It does not have a
> perf impact as `yes-or-no-p' will have to wait for the user input
> anyway, if okay I can push it.

What about other primitives? fset can be used for more than just this
one.

> Oherwise another strategy would be to disable direct calls from lisp
> native code into primitives on Windows, this indeed has a performance
> impact.

How is this relevant only to Windows?

And what do you mean by "disable direct calls from Lisp native code
into primitives"?  I don't think I understand what this would do in
practice.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-10-07 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-05 16:01 bug#58318: 28.2; Emacs installed from package won't work with MinGW Bartosz Bubak
2022-10-06  5:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06 13:09   ` Corwin Brust
2022-10-06 13:30     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06 14:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 11:42         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-07 11:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 12:04             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-07 12:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 12:28                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-07 12:35                 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 12:43                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-07 12:54                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-10-07 13:02                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-07 13:44                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 13:47                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-07 13:04                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 13:48                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 13:54                         ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 14:03                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 14:35                             ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 15:27                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 15:34                                 ` Corwin Brust
2022-10-07 15:43                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 15:47                                     ` Corwin Brust
2022-10-07 19:11                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 17:15                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 19:15                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 15:49                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 15:52                               ` Corwin Brust
2022-10-07 19:14                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-08 12:56                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-08 13:03                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-08 13:10                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-08 14:28                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-08 13:28                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-11 19:23                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-11 19:29                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 20:45                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-12  5:21                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12  8:14                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-12 12:50                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 14:55                                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-12 15:35                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-13 13:26                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-06 14:41     ` Eli Zaretskii

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