From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61496: 30.0.50; Default value of icon-title-format Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 09:46:07 +0200 Message-ID: <83wn4g20qo.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87zg9hqflv.fsf@telefonica.net> <83fsb8e8yr.fsf@gnu.org> <87mt5gqshv.fsf@telefonica.net> <83v8k4cp2z.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1p0tj05.fsf@yahoo.com> <83mt5gcnqb.fsf@gnu.org> <87bklwqoq6.fsf@telefonica.net> <83edqscfzh.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7pto9zb.fsf@bernoul.li> <83h6vl35c4.fsf@gnu.org> <87sff5p05u.fsf@telefonica.net> <87v8k1nh3h.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31297"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, jonas@bernoul.li, 61496-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 17 08:47:31 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pSvSs-0007y2-VD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pSvRY-0006ti-VD; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 02:46:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87v8k1nh3h.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Fri, 17 Feb 2023 10:47:14 +0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255860 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Jonas Bernoulli , > 61496@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 10:47:14 +0800 > > Óscar Fuentes writes: > > > My guess is that icon-title-format was implemented for the benefit of > > the users of certain desktop environments that, instead of minimizing a > > frame (window) to a taskbar, they literally iconified the window, with > > little horizontal space for the title below the icon and, probably, > > difficulty to tell apart the iconified-but-running application from the > > rest of icons on the desktop, so icon-title-format was quite handy. > > Nowadays, taskbars either provide lots of room for a title or don't show > > the title at all, so the need for icon-title-format is less pressing, as > > demonstrated by the absence of bug reports about it being broken until > > Po noticed it by chance. > > Indeed, another feature that has been broken for even longer is the > ability to set a real bitmap icon for the icon window. I will > eventually get around to fixing that. > > I guess no post-2000 window manager even displays icon windows any more. > > As for why it works for Jonas, I'm not sure. Maybe his window manager > somehow convinced Emacs to redisplay the title bar. I think we've said about this issue everything that can be said. So I've now installed the change which allows icon-title-format to be t (but leaving the default as it was), and updated the documentation accordingly. (While at that, I've also found and fixed some inaccuracies in description of the effects of the 'title' and 'name' frame parameters and their effect on the frame's title.) With that, I'm closing this bug.