From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-29 44ebd9cbd56 2/2: Eglot: explain how to update Eglot in manual (bug#62720) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 13:34:35 +0300 Message-ID: <83wn1vou2s.fsf@gnu.org> References: <168263878553.23108.4718240877999827191@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20230427233949.44D31C22A13@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20f53b0a-d6ff-8ec0-2f8c-e0e22b2d49dc@gutov.dev> <83bkj8sjv4.fsf@gnu.org> <87cz3oaxsq.fsf@posteo.net> <8bbac559-396d-531e-e282-ed6b319cd99b@gutov.dev> <87jzxvg9kx.fsf@posteo.net> <4624e69a-6b29-e807-328d-e0b36259de9e@gutov.dev> <837ctvqj99.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24813"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: philipk@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com To: Dmitry Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 29 12:34:41 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pshub-0006FJ-AQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2023 12:34:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pshtw-0004Jk-CP; Sat, 29 Apr 2023 06:34:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pshtv-0004JH-39 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2023 06:33:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pshtu-0007Iw-Hu; Sat, 29 Apr 2023 06:33:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=NdAgKE+w24bURZ79J0f9cBtk6JiibNP2K9u2hmnoaaI=; b=JXNDE5OJkHVi bBLjwZ4H0QKICeixaV7ldl6t3nunYIEMzc3Elw5nXtfAbGtrXOOCoy3uDPjW5WpXXfqk1abSxeQFS 7pj3artTVZ+aozX1NKLU6jCSABw9jdCTK/Z/CwF6jBRJabHvW2j02ADeysIt+S1WrpFfdJPQp5ZXz /cw5nfLDsTHC0dCldkyPzNU5r0eAKjlfsRHb0b8LmTdSbg6PGM9ho9luRHMVC5+VSszFtaxp7kxuB Ke4nGTv+kBHPgd5dN9FcNuZM+vRoFMxjCC5adaX2XusExC1r/69OuGvW1Z/KAm5sicMtn3sJ7M0wU mVYHSaJ2Lc9uiDQzteYU1Q==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pshtt-0005Gg-DV; Sat, 29 Apr 2023 06:33:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry on Sat, 29 Apr 2023 13:01:48 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305716 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 13:01:48 +0300 > From: Dmitry > Cc: "Philip Kaludercic" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, > joaotavora@gmail.com > > On Sat, Apr 29, 2023, at 9:45 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 03:52:48 +0300 > > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com > > From: Dmitry Gutov > > > > But that's the thing: upgrading to a recent version of Eglot is not only > > for the more advanced user. Those can easily go the 'M-x list-packages > > C-s eglot i x' route. > > > > It is those who do the minimum customization and/or are just introduced > > to Emacs, can miss out with more likelihood the longer the steps to > > upgrade Eglot are going to be. > > At the risk of sounding like a broken record: introducing a new > command for upgrading Eglot has the same problem as the original one: > users of Emacs 29 will need to use a different procedure for upgrading > Eglot than they used before. > > But users of Emacs 28- would be able to use it too. Once they learn about that. And why should they need to, when package-install works for them?