From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Shrinking the C core Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2023 15:55:32 +0300 Message-ID: <83wmwztsjf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ledwx7sh.fsf@yahoo.com> <877cpfybhf.fsf@yahoo.com> <873503y66i.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5721"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, acm@muc.de, rms@gnu.org, luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 09 14:56:44 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qexW0-0001IC-C3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2023 14:56:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qexV5-0001f8-L0; Sat, 09 Sep 2023 08:55:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qexV4-0001f0-1j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2023 08:55:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qexV2-0001OM-K8; Sat, 09 Sep 2023 08:55:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Zwsz2+wgvaKptAh7LT+0uxSh5Ue4ZfFOwgtbsH/azBY=; b=OwQttcxzgR98 KD9pmsK8LBkRuyyvnmYv3vXgo52tv7T11aB4BixLjm9JZHqVmSQZ5OyV3Z4HUUuFU4Pcc7eRCcPll qfkkox7dY3e1q6U2tDcC0bFA0sWpfUBoV0tsgw7yDszonKq7sTjCFkHJOU1mL2vVGZxTr7/DSNpnQ 7nY4KQRN19NjlArv2IBVKFJskZM4WvyGQ5nbELpkMAafvwyKynEstt4+SZjht+eY48L5DggDBLuTg ffzKTu1NUdVi+ye7m6tUUyABdcUHrXl9Dr4vzaL0JLigFvtMxOOB4im+f+tWvxqdzEf8TFOAO5Z4C 24seXWA5kL+OG2yuj/wTFg==; In-Reply-To: (message from Arthur Miller on Sat, 09 Sep 2023 13:55:46 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310404 Archived-At: > From: Arthur Miller > Cc: Alan Mackenzie , Richard Stallman , > "luangruo@yahoo.com" , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" > > Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2023 13:55:46 +0200 > > I really didn't want to argue about keyword arguments either, but > Richard brought them up himself. Like you, and probably everyone else > who is familiar with Richards writing through the years, through his > articles and this very mailing list, I am aware of the elephant in the > room, but honestly, I think his friends, Eli and others, are too kind and > would do Richard more favor if they told him when he is dead wrong and > made him to challenge his own view on some questions from time to > time. This comes out quite condescending, FYI. You probably didn't mean that, but the result is not nice anyway. One more reason to stop this dispute about personal stylistic preferences, which was futile from the get-go.