From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bzr repository ready? Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:19:03 +0200 Message-ID: <83vdh3nqdk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87639fr3w7.fsf@red-bean.com> <87vdhfpil2.fsf@red-bean.com> <87einvxy9c.fsf@red-bean.com> <20091118230952.GB908@muc.de> <87my2jw05z.fsf@red-bean.com> <83skc9pbf7.fsf@gnu.org> <87iqd5vw5n.fsf@red-bean.com> <877htl53tc.fsf@telefonica.net> <87ws1ku7zd.fsf@red-bean.com> <87hbso4s13.fsf@telefonica.net> <83aaygoy90.fsf@gnu.org> <87vdh36d48.fsf@telefonica.net> <831vjrptha.fsf@gnu.org> <87einr63b6.fsf@telefonica.net> <83y6lzo9e7.fsf@gnu.org> <877htj5w5e.fsf@telefonica.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1258863574 11040 80.91.229.12 (22 Nov 2009 04:19:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 22 05:19:27 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NC3v4-0002w5-OZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:19:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41097 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NC3v4-0003m9-4R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:19:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NC3uz-0003m3-CZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:19:21 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NC3ut-0003l2-Q6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:19:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50591 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NC3ut-0003kq-9M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:19:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:58656) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NC3us-0006k4-Oi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:19:15 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KTH00K00T7UPB00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:19:02 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.70.37.193]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KTH00I5DTBPV480@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:19:02 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <877htj5w5e.fsf@telefonica.net> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117480 Archived-At: > From: =C3=93scar_Fuentes Fuentes > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:51:41 +0100 >=20 > First, you are not using a version control system for your changes:= it > would be quite scary to me making large changes to a complex code b= ase > without the ability to undo the changes or inspect how and when the= y > were introduced. I do have history, just not a public one. And undoing changes to debug problems is not my style. If worse comes to worst, I always have the current v23.x codebase to compare with. > Second, publishing your work requires making a tarball > with the modified sources (or the diff against certain tag of Emacs > CVS). Since I merge with mainline every few days, I always have a diff against the current CVS, give or take a few days. And if I need a diff against the current CVS, I just need to "cvs up" again. > Using bzr will bring in version control for your work. And you can > publish your emacs variant with full history simply putting a mirro= r on > a web server and pushing your local changes to it. If others had offered help working on this, I'd have made a CVS branc= h long ago. But since I'm the only one interested in this for now, maintaining a branch is just a waste of my time. Mind you, I'm not arguing that a VCS or bzr are not needed, just that their impact is minimal in my case. Nevertheless, I will, of course, use bzr when we switch to it. That's why I was asking questions all this weekend.