From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The Emacs Calculator and calendar Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:44:25 +0200 Message-ID: <83vcem6592.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y5jk3f7d.fsf@gmail.com> <87626md8aj.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1349599483 15404 80.91.229.3 (7 Oct 2012 08:44:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:44:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 07 10:44:49 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TKmTf-0003bc-Pz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:44:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51886 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TKmTZ-0005v5-U1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 04:44:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42928) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TKmTX-0005u9-Sa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 04:44:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TKmTW-0003as-RX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 04:44:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:39591) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TKmTW-0003Zd-Jn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 04:44:38 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MBI00200LKHKJ00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:44:35 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MBI002RJLMA9P50@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:44:35 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87626md8aj.fsf@Rainer.invalid> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:154167 Archived-At: > From: Achim Gratz > Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 09:56:52 +0200 > > Richard Stallman writes: > > I would say it even more strongly: the Unix cal and the Emacs calc are > > foolish chimeras; there > > were hundreds of different dates of adoption of the Gregorian calendar, > > stretching almost 400 years. > > Emacs calendar does the only sane thing. > > > > I am not convinced. Nobody used the Gregorian calendar in 1400, > > so displaying dates from that year in Gregorian is an anachronism. > > That argument doesn't have legs to stand on, IMHO. A user of Emacs > asking for a date that far back can only make sense of it from the > current frame of reference. You are second-guessing users' motives. Is it so unreasonable to ask for an old date because one is reading a book that uses the calendar from those old days?