From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:30:57 +0300 Message-ID: <83vc1rj35a.fsf@gnu.org> References: <523ED74D.4030205@online.de> <87ioxs4zc9.fsf@informatimago.com> <87k3i8vj93.fsf@yandex.ru> <83bo3kk6hh.fsf@gnu.org> <87eh8gzee5.fsf@yandex.ru> <871u4go1bp.fsf@gmail.com> <523FD9B2.9030304@online.de> <834n9cj9s3.fsf@gnu.org> <523FEE11.3050703@online.de> <83zjr4hrcg.fsf@gnu.org> <52400942.9040902@online.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1379928665 7449 80.91.229.3 (23 Sep 2013 09:31:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 23 11:31:06 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VO2Tv-0004Bb-T9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:31:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39306 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VO2Tv-0000xA-Gc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 05:31:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38479) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VO2Tm-0000uc-F6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 05:30:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VO2Tg-0002Hs-QE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 05:30:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:53698) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VO2Tg-0002Hb-Hw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 05:30:48 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MTK00A00NCRA000@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:30:47 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MTK00A9CNRACN10@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:30:46 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <52400942.9040902@online.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163572 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:26:26 +0200 > From: Andreas R=C3=B6hler > CC: Eli Zaretskii >=20 > Am 23.09.2013 10:31, schrieb Eli Zaretskii: > [ ... ] > > > >> Next screen tells about C-p, C-n > > > > It tells about arrow keys before it tells about C-n and C-p. >=20 > For which reason it talks about arrow keys in such preeminent posit= ion? To satisfy complaints like yours.