From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18205: Obsolete patterns in auto-mode-alist Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 11:30:40 +0300 Message-ID: <83vbq2kqtr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83iom5nh6s.fsf@gnu.org> <83sil8m6uv.fsf@gnu.org> <83k36jms6n.fsf@gnu.org> <83zjfekvi4.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1407573145 28891 80.91.229.3 (9 Aug 2014 08:32:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 08:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, 18205@debbugs.gnu.org To: Reuben Thomas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 09 10:32:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XG24W-0007xw-65 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:32:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54548 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XG24V-0001SB-8P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 04:32:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59250) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XG24N-0001Qr-Jr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 04:32:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XG24I-0001Xv-Bc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 04:32:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:57328) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XG24I-0001Xr-9S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 04:32:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XG24H-0007bG-Lp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 04:32:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 08:32:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18205 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18205-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18205.140757306329138 (code B ref 18205); Sat, 09 Aug 2014 08:32:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18205) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2014 08:31:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36038 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XG23J-0007Zi-Pj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 04:31:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:60397) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XG23G-0007ZL-Ij for 18205@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 04:31:00 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NA100I0069Q8300@mtaout28.012.net.il> for 18205@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 11:30:18 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NA100AZC6AIKN60@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 11:30:18 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:92322 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 08:44:46 +0100 > From: Reuben Thomas > Cc: Richard Stallman , Glenn Morris , 18205@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > 3. Rather than try to repair the MS-DOS build system (which remains, > > > AFAICS, the only documented way to build Emacs for MS-DOS), it seems more > > > productive to get the normal build system working. > > > > Feel free to do that, but personally, I think this is a waste of > > energy. From my POV, the DJGPP build of Emacs is in maintenance mode: > > no new features specific to that build are or should be considered. > > > > That's pretty much the point: I am suggesting removing features specific to > the build (in this case, the build system) and letting the normal build > system take the strain instead. I envision a non-trivial effort doing that, an effort that is IMO a waste of valuable resources. The current DJGPP build "just works", given that you have a correct setup on a system that supports the build (requirements for supporting the build might be different from those for supporting running of the binary). I have built all the pretests of Emacs 24.4 with no problems. I have reports from people who successfully built the previous version, 24.3. The problems you saw on FreeDOS using the current build system are either due to FreeDOS specific issues or to your particular setup and the tools you installed. We could try debugging those problems, but unless you intend to continue building the DJGPP port, that, too, would be a waste, IMO. Given the above, investing efforts in moving DJGPP to the Posix configury is a waste of resources that are best applied to parts of Emacs that will benefit users of modern systems. Again, if after all I've said, you still want to work on that, feel free to do it, and thanks in advance.