From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net>
Cc: 19896@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#19896: 23.1; reverse-region is slow compared to sort-columns
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 21:29:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83vbiz3to6.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87twyj6nk3.fsf@violet.siamics.net>
> From: Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net>
> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:13:00 +0000
>
> >>>>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> >>>>> From: Ivan Shmakov Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 18:29:08 +0000
>
> […]
>
> >> On a GNU system (as well as on any other system featuring GNU
> >> Coreutils), it should be possible to just use sort(1) for the
> >> purpose. For instance, the “reverse” option is ‘-r’.
>
> > But sort(1)'s sort order is locale-specific, whereas that of Emacs
> > isn't.
>
> How is that a disadvantage?
I didn't say it was a disadvantage, only that the results might be
different, and will almost certainly be different in different
locales.
> The user can easily force any locale of those available on the
> system with an explicit LC_ALL=, like:
>
> $ LC_ALL=de_DE.UTF-8 sort < list.de
>
> $ LC_ALL=ru_RU.UTF-8 sort < list.ru
>
> $ LC_ALL=C sort < list.ascii
Yes, but Emacs's sort order is not in any locale, more or less. So
it's not easy to find a locale that will produce the same order as
Emacs, unless you know a lot about Emacs internals. And even if you
do, such a locale might not be installed on the end-user's machine.
> For one thing, M-x sort-lines seems to put ё after я, while in
> Russian it comes between е and ж. And similarly for ß (and the
> accented letters) in German, etc.
Precisely! That was my point.
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2015-02-18 17:35 ` bug#19896: 23.1; reverse-region is slow compared to sort-columns asparagus
2015-02-18 18:29 ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-18 19:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-18 19:13 ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-18 19:29 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
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2015-02-18 19:19 ` bug#19896: asparagus
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2015-02-26 17:53 ` bug#19896: Please modify documentation to close this bug asparagus
2015-04-19 0:49 ` Glenn Morris
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