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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Add function eshell/clear to clear current eshell buffer
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 15:39:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83vbgt7gqw.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y4lpofl5.fsf@lifelogs.com>

> From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 07:12:22 -0400
> 
> >> > +(defun eshell/clear ()
> >> > +  "Clear the eshell-buffer"
> >> 
> >> Now this command does not clear the eshell buffer any more, but the
> >> eshell window.  I think the doc string should say so because this has
> >> security implications: The user may think some info is gone but actually
> >> it’s only no longer visible.
> 
> EZ> The same happens with a few terminal emulators, so users should
> EZ> already be expecting that possibility
> 
> But eshell is not a terminal emulator.  It's a shell.  Emacs provides
> the text UI around it.

I don't see the significance of this observation for the issue at
hand.  Eshell is an implementation of a shell in Emacs Lisp, and as
such, Emacs is part of it.  Therefore, we should compare what Eshell's
command do with what shells+emulators do.

> I would rename `eshell/clear' to `eshell/clear-view' and also provide
> `eshell/clear-buffer', if that's OK with Vibhav and everyone else?

Eshell should have commands named like corresponding shell commands.
Having commands with no namesakes in popular shells makes very little
sense to me.




  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-18 12:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-08  5:22 [PATCH] Add function eshell/clear to clear current eshell buffer vibhavp
2015-03-08  5:23 ` Vibhav Pant
2015-03-08  7:08   ` Bozhidar Batsov
2015-03-08  7:19     ` vibhavp
2015-03-08  7:25       ` Bozhidar Batsov
2015-03-08 15:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-08 19:28   ` vibhavp
2015-03-08 20:11     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-09  6:16       ` vibhavp
2015-03-09 10:11         ` Gregor Zattler
2015-03-09 12:33           ` vibhavp
2015-03-09 12:39             ` vibhavp
2015-03-09 15:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-09 16:09             ` vibhavp
2015-03-09 16:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-10  3:27                 ` Vibhav Pant
2015-03-10  7:59                   ` Bozhidar Batsov
2015-03-10  8:20                     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-04-18 11:12             ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-04-18 12:39               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-04-18 13:31                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-04-18 13:43                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-18 14:17                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-04-18 15:18                     ` vibhavp
2015-04-18 15:23                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-18 19:10                         ` chad
2015-04-18 19:23                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-18 20:13                         ` vibhavp
2015-04-18 23:06                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-04-19  4:26                             ` vibhavp
2015-04-19 14:40                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-19 18:06                                 ` vibhavp
2015-04-19 18:24                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-19 18:49                                     ` vibhavp
2015-04-19 18:53                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-20 12:50                                         ` Ted Zlatanov

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