From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: text-quoting-style Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 18:48:52 +0300 Message-ID: <83vbbz2z2z.fsf@gnu.org> References: <55E0085D.3000404@cs.ucla.edu> <83pp2750e1.fsf@gnu.org> <55E013C0.1060106@cs.ucla.edu> <83oahr4xe0.fsf@gnu.org> <55E07794.2090707@cs.ucla.edu> <83zj1b2zwh.fsf@gnu.org> <55E080C5.2070801@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1440776963 21658 80.91.229.3 (28 Aug 2015 15:49:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 15:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 28 17:49:15 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVLty-0006vZ-My for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:49:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48523 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVLtx-0001E4-Tv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 11:49:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33363) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVLte-0001D1-Ra for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 11:48:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVLtb-0007jj-Lq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 11:48:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:37408) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVLtb-0007jL-Dm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 11:48:51 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NTS00D00UDT2D00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 18:48:49 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NTS00CR7ULCZ830@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 18:48:49 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <55E080C5.2070801@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189274 Archived-At: > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:39:49 -0700 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > When you set LC_ALL=C you "misconfigure" the environment. > > It appears we're miscommunicating. I'm not suggesting to set LC_ALL=C for Emacs > only. I'm suggesting to set LC_ALL=C everywhere. Including in the shell? Then I'm sorry for my misunderstanding. I thought you were suggesting to invoke Emacs as "LC_ALL=C emacs". > If your display can't handle > non-ASCII characters, then GCC, coreutils, and many other applications will > generate what appears to be gibberish in UTF-8 locales. The fix is simple: > avoid UTF-8 locales if you can't display UTF-8. This is not an issue specific > to Emacs, or to curved single quotation marks. If the users who dislike these characters are prepared to set their locale to "C", then yes, that's a solution for them.