From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21568: [PATCH] Add prettify-symbols-alist for js-mode Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 00:01:50 +0300 Message-ID: <83vbavefup.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1443268188.7436.0@smtp.gmail.com> <834mihgvb9.fsf@gnu.org> <1443283198.7442.0@smtp.gmail.com> <56074E0F.6060209@yandex.ru> <83r3lkfleu.fsf@gnu.org> <560788DB.6000104@yandex.ru> <83oagofhhi.fsf@gnu.org> <5607A721.2020002@yandex.ru> <83h9mgfe78.fsf@gnu.org> <5607ADCC.8080407@yandex.ru> <83d1x4fabf.fsf@gnu.org> <5607F919.9090600@yandex.ru> <831tdjg14c.fsf@gnu.org> <56083FD0.4020501@yandex.ru> <83y4frejbu.fsf@gnu.org> <56084F04.2040501@yandex.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443387747 14418 80.91.229.3 (27 Sep 2015 21:02:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 21:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: xfq.free@gmail.com, simenheg@gmail.com, 21568@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 27 23:02:13 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgJ5I-00027c-0I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 23:02:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58764 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgJ5H-0008HA-IH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:02:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35608) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgJ5D-0008H4-Ry for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:02:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgJ58-0003Ro-Mo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:02:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:56952) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgJ58-0003Rk-JU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:02:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgJ58-0000OP-Et for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:02:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 21:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21568 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 21568-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21568.14433877061486 (code B ref 21568); Sun, 27 Sep 2015 21:02:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21568) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Sep 2015 21:01:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45923 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgJ4r-0000Nt-S1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:01:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:65124) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgJ4o-0000Nj-Sd for 21568@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:01:44 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NVC00I00SPI8I00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 21568@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 00:01:41 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NVC00I78T2SEB00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 00:01:41 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <56084F04.2040501@yandex.ru> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:106981 Archived-At: > Cc: xfq.free@gmail.com, simenheg@gmail.com, 21568@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 23:18:12 +0300 > > On 09/27/2015 10:46 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > No, please leave that text alone. It's okay the way it is. > > I feel that the last sentence causes unnecessary doubt on the part of > the reader. After all, CONTRIBUTE is intended as a guideline for > developing Emacs, and the less ambiguous it is, the better. I see no ambiguity there. There are requirements, and there's "a good idea" with an explanation that is left to the contributors to consider and decide. I see nothing wrong with leaving the decision with them. > >> What I'm referring to is requests such as this one, which I believe > >> was/is misleading: > >> > >> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=21568#8 > > > > I disagree that it was misleading. > > It implied that without that cookie, something in that code might not > work well. Then I'm sorry that my wording made such interpretation possible. It was certainly not intended. > > I explained my reasons right there and then. > > As a counterpoint, I don't believe educational purpose is a good enough > cause to ask people to use coding cookies in UTF-8 encoded Elisp files. Let's agree to disagree about that, okay? > Even for external packages, over time, Emacs versions where they're > necessary will sail off into distant past. No need to add to the baggage > the future people will have to deal with. I cannot see how a dozen-character string most users will never even notice could possibly be a "baggage" of any significance. > I see an attempt to bring in extraneous practice into writing Elisp > files (as well as reviewing the patches), and speak against it. The form and the intense of the objections are out of proportions, for such an insignificant issue/disagreement.