From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 19:19:12 +0300 Message-ID: <83vba4i1z3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <561A19AB.5060001@cumego.com> <87io6dl0h0.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87lhb82qxc.fsf@gmail.com> <87oag4jk74.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87k2qrki45.fsf@wanadoo.es> <8737xf9je9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87pp0fm0j3.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3kusx8z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83lhb26eb9.fsf@gnu.org> <876126key3.fsf@gnu.org> <83fv1a6bfu.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1weo7u9.fsf@gnu.org> <83zizi3qr0.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhb1n81y.fsf@gnu.org> <83si594wt3.fsf@gnu.org> <87io64iigs.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3kso1gr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wpuks5ek.fsf@T420.taylan> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445185174 25109 80.91.229.3 (18 Oct 2015 16:19:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 16:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ludo@gnu.org, dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: taylanbayirli@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich =?utf-8?Q?Bay=C4=B1rl=C4=B1=2FK?= =?utf-8?Q?ammer?=) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 18 18:19:27 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnqgA-00038j-W1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 18:19:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34537 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Znqg5-0004LB-8l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 12:19:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60528) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Znqg1-0004L6-EC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 12:19:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Znqg0-0006JT-Iy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 12:19:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout26.012.net.il ([80.179.55.182]:35638) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Znqfw-0006J1-QA; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 12:19:12 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout26.012.net.il by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NWF00F00BWP1100@mtaout26.012.net.il>; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 19:22:24 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NWF00A7FC5BJI50@mtaout26.012.net.il>; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 19:22:24 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87wpuks5ek.fsf@T420.taylan> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.182 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191963 Archived-At: > From: taylanbayirli@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich Bay=C4=B1rl=C4=B1/Kamm= er) > Cc: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s), Eli Zaretskii > , emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 14:54:59 +0200 >=20 > Guile's string library is for working with strings (surprise!), not > arbitrary byte vectors. >=20 > For arbitrary byte vectors, Guile has bytevectors (surprise!!). One of the major lessons Emacs development learned since Emacs 20.1 i= s that raw bytes happen as part of text (a.k.a. "strings"), and therefore there's a need to support a mixture of these two in the sam= e buffer/string. I think that's something Guile should support as well= , as that will make it a more powerful and flexible extension language, able to deal with a wider range of real-life situations.