From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
Cc: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Questioning the new behavior of `open-line'.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:07:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83vb98jqwp.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h9kscqig.fsf@red-bean.com>
> From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:58:15 -0600
> Cc: Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com>
>
> John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> writes:
> >>>>>> Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com> writes:
> >
> >>> 3. I think, when electric-indent-mode is on, open-line should indent the
> >>> line that was created below if it isn't empty. May I go ahead?
> >
> >> Had I seen that question at the time, I would have answered "Oh, please
> >> don't" :-). But maybe mine is a minority opinion? I encounter the new
> >> behavior several times a day, and don't like it; turning off
> >> `electric-indent-mode' seems like a drastic solution. But if people
> >> generally like this new behavior, I'll certainly live with being in the
> >> minority and figure out the appropritae local customization.
> >
> >I too would want the original C-o behavior. If you're using it an column 0,
> >then the action of C-o is to create a new line, not to adjust indentation of
> >the line you were on before the command.
> >
> >Now, you *could* have the new behavior using `electric-indent-functions',
> >checking if the current command is `open-line'. So we're not making it
> >impossible to do. But we shouldn't change long-standing behavior like this, in
> >a subtle way that many users wouldn't know how to undo.
>
> Yeah, my feelings too. If `electric-indent-mode' does anything here, it should move point to the appropriate indentation column *on the new, blank line*, while leaving existing text however it was.
People who don't like electric-indent-mode can just turn it off, can't
they? Why argue about defaults when they can be so easily changed?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-11 19:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-11 18:08 Questioning the new behavior of `open-line' Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 18:51 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 18:58 ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 19:07 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-11-11 19:13 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 19:39 ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 20:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 20:17 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 20:33 ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 20:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-11 20:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 20:58 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 21:08 ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 21:13 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-12 7:59 ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 21:53 ` David Kastrup
2015-11-11 21:52 ` David Kastrup
2015-11-12 0:08 ` Rasmus
2015-11-12 8:06 ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-12 10:00 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-12 11:08 ` Rasmus
2015-11-12 11:18 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-11-12 13:11 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-12 14:16 ` Rasmus
2015-11-12 14:44 ` Yuri Khan
2015-11-12 14:52 ` Rasmus
2015-11-12 14:54 ` Yuri Khan
2015-11-12 15:38 ` David Kastrup
2015-11-12 16:20 ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-12 16:33 ` Pierpaolo Bernardi
[not found] ` <CAAdUY-LVoXm-c+Cv8Gx6h+d40YDoK4rJp1U6Tw+Gc+yCOVee=g@mail.gmail.com>
2015-11-13 1:17 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-13 6:04 ` Pierpaolo Bernardi
2015-11-14 12:34 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-14 19:39 ` David Kastrup
2015-11-17 0:42 ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-17 0:53 ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-17 3:46 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-17 22:57 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-17 23:16 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-18 17:25 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-11-17 23:20 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-18 20:32 ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-18 21:03 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-19 23:34 ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-19 23:57 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-14 21:59 ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-12 14:57 ` David Kastrup
2015-11-12 16:09 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-12 15:26 ` Rasmus
2015-11-11 20:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 20:28 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 20:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 21:00 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 21:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 21:17 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-11 21:30 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 22:40 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-11 19:20 ` Paul Eggert
2015-11-11 19:25 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 20:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 21:50 ` David Kastrup
2015-11-11 22:24 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-11 21:31 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 21:46 ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-12 7:38 ` Andreas Röhler
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