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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
Cc: darthandrus@gmail.com, dancol@dancol.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Callbacks from modules
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:41:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83vb8otxhf.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAArVCkRqVLSau6gOhg6JFV861xXmRU3v-ExcNzoZNdCT3OEPqw@mail.gmail.com>

> From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:16:13 +0000
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
> 
> There are two major issues with allowing callbacks at arbitrary times, which
> need to be discussed and resolved first. The first is that such a facility
> would change the execution model of Emacs in a quite fundamental way. Right now
> all user-defined code inside the Emacs process gets run through a path under
> the control of Emacs, either as a response to an input event, or a timer, or a
> process filter etc. Adding a facility to run module code from arbitrary
> callbacks would remove this invariant, which can have global effects on Emacs.

I don't even understand what is meant by "arbitrary callbacks".  If
they are called in the context of a separate thread, we will not allow
them to run.

IOW, such arbitrary callbacks need to run in the C land, and
communicate with Lisp via timers.  In the future, we might add
facilities that would allow a module register a file descriptor
through which events could flow into the Emacs event queue.  But that
is not yet available, and I'm not sure we'd want to allow it.



  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-26 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-26  6:08 Callbacks from modules Ivan Andrus
2015-11-26 15:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-26 16:17   ` joakim
2015-11-26 16:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-26 17:01       ` Philipp Stephani
2015-11-26 17:19         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27  3:23   ` Ivan Andrus
2015-11-27  8:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 17:30       ` Ivan Andrus
2015-11-26 18:16 ` Philipp Stephani
2015-11-26 18:41   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-11-26 18:44     ` Philipp Stephani
2015-11-27  3:35       ` Ivan Andrus
2015-11-27  8:30         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 17:31           ` Ivan Andrus
2015-11-27  4:22     ` Tom Tromey
2015-11-27  8:35       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-30 14:03         ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-30 15:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-30 16:52           ` John Wiegley
2015-11-27  4:20   ` Tom Tromey

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