From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 22296-done@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22296: 25.1.50; Document changes to `delete-selection-mode'
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2016 20:43:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83vb7a8pxi.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68435980-44a2-4d33-8f64-8fbbdedb4a4e@default> (message from Drew Adams on Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:00:46 -0800 (PST))
> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:00:46 -0800 (PST)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: 22296@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> > > 4. Apparently you can no longer specify `kill' as the d-s behavior:
> > > (put 'some-command 'delete-selection 'kill). Well, it's still
> > > supported for now, but `kill' has been removed from the file-header
> > > Commentary, and the code comments say that it is deprecated.
> > >
> > > Why is this? Where is this deprecation documented? Why
> > > shouldn't a user or a library still be able to override a
> > > `delete-selection' setting for a given command, to specify
> > > it as `kill'? Not clear to me what this is about.
> > >
> > > 5. There is an additional, undocumented (why?) possible value
> > > for `delete-selection', which you can apparently put on a
> > > command's symbol: `delete-selection-uses-region-p'. Please
> > > consider documenting this (e.g., not just mentioning it in NEWS).
> > >
> > > 6. The default delete-selection behavior for multiple commands
> > > has apparently changed. For example, `open-line' now has the
> > > default behavior and not the `kill' behavior. Likewise, unloading
> > > (`delsel-unload-function') deals with a different command list.
> >
> > We never documented any of this, and I see no reason to do so now.
>
> Really? The fact that you (apparently) can no longer specify that
> a given command is handled by killing the region? The fact that
> there is a new possible value for the property (what is it for)?
>
> How is a user supposed to understand how to use d-s-mode if these
> things are not documented - either in a doc string or in a manual?
How did they understand this before?
This bug report says "please document changes to
delete-selection-mode". I have shown that what was documented before
was updated. You now say that its previous documentation was
insufficient, which is an entirely different issue.
> And we no longer announce deprecations? Except in code comments?
Most of the deprecations are indeed never announced in NEWS, you see
them when the byte compiler emits a warning to that effect.
> Anyway, I've reported the problems I see. Do with the information
> what you will.
I did.
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