From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23926: defcustom with STANDARD= gives confusing results Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2016 10:13:00 +0300 Message-ID: <83vb0fgu83.fsf@gnu.org> References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1468048473 9738 80.91.229.3 (9 Jul 2016 07:14:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 07:14:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23926@debbugs.gnu.org To: Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 09 09:14:19 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bLmSx-0007nD-NW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 09:14:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49221 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLmSw-0006mZ-Tx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 03:14:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43213) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLmSq-0006mS-1v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 03:14:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLmSl-0005V5-Rs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 03:14:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:59104) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLmSg-0005TY-6J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 03:14:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLmSg-0003pT-3A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 03:14:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2016 07:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23926 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23926-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23926.146804839614658 (code B ref 23926); Sat, 09 Jul 2016 07:14:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23926) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2016 07:13:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43208 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLmRw-0003oL-Gh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 03:13:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52016) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLmRu-0003o9-I1 for 23926@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 03:13:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLmRo-0005Hw-Jr for 23926@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 03:13:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36483) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLmRo-0005Ho-H4; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 03:13:08 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4191 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bLmRn-00015X-B7; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 03:13:07 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Noam Postavsky on Fri, 8 Jul 2016 23:11:02 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:120660 Archived-At: > From: Noam Postavsky > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 23:11:02 -0400 > > A trivial example: > > (defcustom time (current-time-string) > "the time" > :type 'string) > > Then try to M-x customize-options RET time RET, it will show with > state "CHANGED outside Customize." Similarly, doing v time RET > shows the "original value" as the current time, not the actual value > when `time' was defined. Why is this a bug? Seems to be expected behavior to me.