From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Build failure on Windows Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 05:29:34 +0200 Message-ID: <83varnhyld.fsf@gnu.org> References: <58BBE663.4020207@gmx.at> <86zih0yoid.fsf@gmail.com> <58BC125E.9090701@gmx.at> <83fuirkas2.fsf@gnu.org> <58BC51EC.70300@gmx.at> <834lz7jxuf.fsf@gnu.org> <58BC8313.40604@gmx.at> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1488770996 1008 195.159.176.226 (6 Mar 2017 03:29:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 03:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 06 04:29:48 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckjLI-0007ry-5L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 04:29:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41469 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckjLO-00077n-AW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 22:29:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42461) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckjLI-000778-GE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 22:29:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckjLE-0002My-1y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 22:29:48 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41123) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckjLD-0002Mu-Ui; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 22:29:43 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1908 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ckjLC-00062k-O1; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 22:29:43 -0500 In-reply-to: <58BC8313.40604@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Sun, 05 Mar 2017 22:28:51 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:212786 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2017 22:28:51 +0100 > From: martin rudalics > CC: andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > The Lisp files that need to be recompiled by hand changes every time, > > so it's hard to say something specific. Besides, my impression is > > that avoiding bootstrap is frowned upon in certain quarters... > > Well, I don't know where to go from here. In the past two weeks I > bootstrapped more often than in the past five years. And if I'm not > mistaken others experienced the same problem. I think I'll take a break > for a couple of weeks or months. Maybe things will settle down. I don't think master is broken, or that these things will become better in the future. One recipe to avoid hitting these problems is to resync with upstream more often, because that minimizes the number of Lisp files that need to be recompiled, and lowers the probability of hitting some circular dependency with macros or somesuch.