From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Understanding how to specify UTF-8 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 13:54:32 +0300 Message-ID: <83vapy9gk7.fsf@gnu.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1492772161 20044 195.159.176.226 (21 Apr 2017 10:56:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:56:01 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 21 12:55:58 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d1WEH-00057d-R2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:55:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58570 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d1WEN-0006aQ-Mn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:56:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59472) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d1WCJ-0005QK-9k for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:53:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d1WCE-0004YA-ER for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:53:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56041) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d1WCE-0004Y6-BQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:53:50 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1469 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1d1WCD-0005RZ-Hf for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:53:50 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Jason Rumney on Fri, 21 Apr 2017 02:28:45 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:112835 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 02:28:45 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jason Rumney > > On Windows, the system itself does not support UTF-8 fully, so the former is safer. For clipboard and file names on Windows, the latest versions of Emacs will use Unicode regardless of what you specify for the coding system, it is really only process I/O that is the problem - Cygwin and Mingw apps may support UTF-8 I/O, but native Windows apps (including the cmd.exe shell) can have severe difficulties with it. MinGW apps are native apps, so they don't support UTF-8. I think you meant MSYS, not MinGW (and then only MSYS2 apps support UTF-8).