From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11700: 24.1.50; Bad interaction between BiDi and org-tables Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 15:48:32 +0200 Message-ID: <83vagxk11r.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83mx46y4f5.fsf@gnu.org> <87mv2y6xx2.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83374qxlwp.fsf@gnu.org> <877eu26wc7.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83zi6twotx.fsf__4220.56812462888$1512725457$gmane$org@gnu.org> <87mv2trvti.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83y3ltk1j0.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1514036833 20209 195.159.176.226 (23 Dec 2017 13:47:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 13:47:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dov.grobgeld@gmail.com, 11700@debbugs.gnu.org To: mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 23 14:47:09 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eSk8q-0004rU-Ma for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Dec 2017 14:47:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42042 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eSkAo-0000xS-Td for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Dec 2017 08:49:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36768) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eSkAj-0000xH-Qa for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Dec 2017 08:49:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eSkAg-0002NX-ON for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Dec 2017 08:49:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:40139) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eSkAg-0002NQ-Jp; Sat, 23 Dec 2017 08:49:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eSkAg-0000wn-Cw; Sat, 23 Dec 2017 08:49:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 13:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11700 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11700-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11700.15140369203608 (code B ref 11700); Sat, 23 Dec 2017 13:49:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11700) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2017 13:48:40 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48820 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eSkAK-0000w6-CL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Dec 2017 08:48:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45696) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eSkAJ-0000vu-Ns for 11700@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Dec 2017 08:48:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eSkAB-0001x4-7g for 11700@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Dec 2017 08:48:34 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43300) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eSkAB-0001wr-4S; Sat, 23 Dec 2017 08:48:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3850 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eSkAA-0006w5-Hd; Sat, 23 Dec 2017 08:48:30 -0500 In-reply-to: <83y3ltk1j0.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 23 Dec 2017 15:38:11 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:141425 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 15:38:11 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: dov.grobgeld@gmail.com, 11700@debbugs.gnu.org > > I found both methods doing well, so I'm going to show both, and let > you decide which one is better. On second thought, I think Method 2 is better, because it does exactly what segment separators were invented for: to separate cells in tables. By contrast, the bidi formatting control characters are for controlling the display order in general text, not necessarily in tables.