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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: acm@muc.de, 29478@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net
Subject: bug#29478: [Patch] bug#29478: 26.0.90; `C-h k' followed by mouse clicks no longer shows down event
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 09:59:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83vafnka0c.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvwp04qoxg.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Fri, 26 Jan 2018 17:00:15 -0500)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
> Cc: acm@muc.de, 29478@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 17:00:15 -0500
> 
> >   <S-down-mouse-1> at that spot runs the command mouse-appearance-menu
> >   <S-mouse-1> at that spot is undefined
> >
> > I'd expect the second line not to appear.
> 
> About that, I wrote:
> 
>     OTOH, for text-terminals, we add a "(translated from <escape-sequence>)"
>     and we could do the same here (that's what my patch originally did, by
>     the way, and that's what I've been using all these years since I think
>     it's very valuable information), which would say:
>     
>        <C-H-mouse-1> (translated from <C-H-down-mouse-1> <C-H-mouse-1>)
>        at that spot is undefined
> 
> but I misremembered, the above also appears in vanilla Emacs.  Regarding
> your example:
> 
>     <S-down-mouse-1> at that spot runs the command mouse-appearance-menu
>     <S-mouse-1> at that spot is undefined
> 
> it's hard to do much better: the S-mouse-1 event is eaten by
> `mouse-appearance-menu` but it's basically impossible to determine
> that automatically.
> 
> And if you want to "not show undefined sequences", does that mean we
> don't say anything at all for `C-h k M-_` rather than "M-_ is undefined"?
> How 'bout `C-h c M-S-double-mouse-1` which with my code says (courtesy
> copy-next-command-output (!)):
> 
>     <M-S-mouse-1> (translated from <M-S-down-mouse-1> <M-S-mouse-1>) at that spot is undefined
>     <M-S-double-mouse-1> (translated from <M-S-double-down-mouse-1> <M-S-double-mouse-1>) is undefined
> 
> We can probably come up with some heuristic to keep "at least one line
> of output" or something, but I think it's more useful for the user to
> report all the events and their binding or lack thereof since we don't
> really know what the user is looking for.

I'd prefer the "undefined" lines to appear only if none of the
possible interpretations is bound to a command, yes.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-01-27  7:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-27 23:21 bug#29478: 26.0.90; `C-h k' followed by mouse clicks no longer shows down event Drew Adams
2017-11-28  1:50 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-11-28 17:11   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-28 22:10   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-11-29  0:44     ` Noam Postavsky
2017-11-29  3:36       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-29  4:33     ` Drew Adams
2017-12-01  8:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-09 17:18         ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-23 14:28         ` bug#29478: [Patch 2]: " Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-23 14:48           ` Andreas Schwab
2017-12-24  8:43             ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]   ` <<20171128221036.GC14868@ACM>
     [not found]     ` <<bbcb1d00-a728-4b5e-b65f-bd2b168c4a51@default>
     [not found]       ` <<83o9ni3l3i.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-12-01 15:35         ` Drew Adams
2017-12-01 16:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-09 16:13             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-09 17:23               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-22 22:05               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-23  9:42                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-23 11:17                   ` bug#29478: [Patch] " Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-23 12:41                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-23 16:33                     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-23 21:04                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-24  4:55                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-24  5:41                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-24  6:52                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-24 11:48                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-24 15:41                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-30 10:50                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03  3:56                             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-06 17:40                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-07 15:31                                 ` bug#29478: [SUSPECTED SPAM] " Stefan Monnier
2018-01-07 17:46                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-07 18:03                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-26 22:00                                 ` bug#29478: " Stefan Monnier
2018-01-26 22:37                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-27  8:28                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-28 16:02                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-28 17:18                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-29 21:54                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-30  3:23                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-30 14:18                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-30 15:40                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-30 16:59                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-27  7:59                                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2017-12-30 10:51                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-30 11:32                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-30 12:49                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-23 16:19             ` bug#29478: " Stefan Monnier
2020-08-26 13:43 ` bug#29478: 26.0.90; " Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-26 17:12   ` Drew Adams

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