From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Commit header lines (was: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support)) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 19:23:52 +0300 Message-ID: <83va9haiqv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ind6l2tt.fsf@lifelogs.com> <877etklvsa.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83y3m0pv8u.fsf@gnu.org> <86608msw0h.fsf@dod.no> <838tdiet25.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3li4vh7.fsf@telefonica.net> <87efnan46u.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <86wp12qtgo.fsf@dod.no> <83tvw6chqv.fsf@gnu.org> <86shbprix7.fsf_-_@dod.no> <838t6jgl1k.fsf@gnu.org> <601m6cc6.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83o9fefnv9.fsf@gnu.org> <83d0vtfx4f.fsf@gnu.org> <83o9fce4np.fsf@gnu.org> <8336wneemw.fsf@gnu.org> <907edf27-ed0c-5166-88ea-c3db9d9d7f74@cs.ucla.edu> <83pnzqb8wl.fsf@gnu.org> <55bb3a0b-e948-9e5d-8332-bed47b913026@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1531585346 31400 195.159.176.226 (14 Jul 2018 16:22:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 16:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 14 18:22:21 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1feNJN-00084K-9J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2018 18:22:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41936 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1feNLU-00060o-D5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2018 12:24:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60865) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1feNKv-00060j-TN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2018 12:23:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1feNKs-0003VN-Mh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2018 12:23:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44701) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1feNKs-0003VE-JW; Sat, 14 Jul 2018 12:23:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1443 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1feNKl-0004Xh-9l; Sat, 14 Jul 2018 12:23:47 -0400 In-reply-to: <55bb3a0b-e948-9e5d-8332-bed47b913026@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Sat, 14 Jul 2018 11:09:27 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:227408 Archived-At: > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 11:09:27 -0500 > > On 07/14/2018 01:58 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > There are header lines that don't > > add any information to the log message, in many cases they are just > > the first entry slightly rephrased. > > If a summary line is a shorter version of the main text, that's a good > thing. It's like a good title for a news article or a research paper: it > restates the main text briefly, and there is real value in that. I disagree with your perception, but I guess we are getting into the gray area where personal preferences mean more than anything else. > By the way, the usual suggested length limit for summary lines is 50 > characters, not 65. 50 is the suggested length, but 65 is the absolute maximum, mainly because otherwise it will overflow the margin when we create a ChangeLog out of Git log.